The all things technical thread.

Naz also did Ballet, my father mentioned it once but my footwork was Marciano like .

 

A bit of dancing on a Saturday night helps keep you loose and relaxed also. I try and work a few James Brown moves in to my reportoire.

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Not sure if this is relevant to the thread but I was very surprised when Paul Williams trainer said that 90% of the time in training camp is spent on conditioning and only 10% on the technical side. He said "once you know how to throw a jab, you know it for life" I disagree strongly with this way of thinking, but then I'm no coach. Why is William's training camp more like a fitness camp instead of a boxing camp focusing on techniques? If he was better technically then maybe he would be able to actually make good use of his physical advantages.

What are your thoughts on this? I mean, he might be exaggerating when he said 10% but still, it's shocking.

 

TBH Ero, maybe some won't agree but Paul Williams worst decision was staying with Mr.Peterson. He is one of the most ignorant, foolish trainers i've witnessed.

He believed Martinez punch was a 'fluke' and made no changes to Paul and look what happened in Lara fight. Another terrible display from Pwilly...

All in all his knowledge of boxing wouldn't even be worth writing on back of a *** packet.

BTW how many pro/am trainers we got on here? We got Arnie, Billy, sure Stuey does a bit, Jeff obviously. Kevin Maree as well, Dave Coldwell.

Lets get these lads in here talking about there philosophy, they don't need to talk about there secrets and tricks of trade but i'd be interested to see what they think about sport away from the usual threads.

 

I've always been a fan of Williams, a fun fighter to watch but I think he could be so much better. Sure, part of the reason he's so good to watch is because he's not a textbook fighter, but there should be a bit of a balance. If he's not learning anything technically he may as well just get a mr motivator type fitness coach. Yeah I would be interested to hear the views of the coaches who post here on this.

 

That was quality

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williams coach is complete **** thats why.

i would like to see some of the coaches post in here too. see what light they could shed on some techniques. i suspect some of hem wont tho as they dont put that much time or effort into analysing how o improve their fighters.

just regurgitate the same old thing that they have always done. hopefully i am wrong

 

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I don't post often, more of a lurker but this is a brilliant thread, makes a change from all the pacweather bollocks that goes on in the general. I think I'll contribute as well. I boxed as an amateur for about 3 years but decided to stop after getting into university as I felt I couldn't give the same amount of dedication to the sport on top of my uni work. Back when I did box, what I would try to do is watch the same fight everyday for a week and try to pick out some subtleties that I could utilise in the ring.

One example that stands out to me is the clean straight right hand that Floyd Mayweather landed on Ricky Hatton whilst in the middle of the ring in round 8- the punch that basically snapped his head back. Now it looks like just any right hand but the way he set it up is a thing of beauty and also showed me a completely different way of using feints. This is going to be long winded but I hope you get the picture in the end.

Esentially when I looked at the HBO replay of that punch, I noticed that Ricky Hatton's hands were on their way down towards his abdomen just as Mayweather detonated the right hand, meaning that Mayweather did something/provided a stimulus for Hatton to bring his hands down thus giving him a clear target to the head. And what I noticed is that Mayweather jabbed to Hatton's body just before that punch, now what was interesting about that jab was that Mayweather's body moved in the opposite direction. When you throw a jab as an orthodox fighter your body along with your shoulders rotates to your right and you get the full extension. However with this jab, Mayweather did a jab to the body and rotated his body to his left- the direction which your body would usually move when you throw a right hand- a very awkward move.

Therefore, what happened was that when Mayweather did this awkard jab to the body, this particular movement registered in Hatton's head and when Floyd threw the straight right hand, with his body and shoulders rotating towards his left naturally, Hatton thought he was about to get another jab to the body thus putting his hands down. What actually happened was that Mayweather detonated a straight right on his forehead!

I hope this made sense.:nut

 

Will do, going to try and add a bit more to this thread.:good

Very true about Mayweather and Ward, the jabs to the body in the Corrales and Kessler fights respectively were beautiful to see.