Completely swap the era's of young and byrd; how successful would they be?

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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    Massively so.
     
  2. Lester1583

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    Wlad has the better reign and better victories.

    Although they are different fighters with different strengths but H2H they're pretty close, in my opinion.

    One can make a good case for either brother being a better H2H fighter - depends what qualities one likes more.
     
  3. MMJoe

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    I am soooo glad that I wasn't the only one reminded of Jimmy Ellis when i saw Chris Byrd fight. Good thread, true story.
     
  4. lufcrazy

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    I can't really see an argument rating vitali over wlad in any sense to be honest.

    Wlad looks much better on film. He has defeated more fighters of a higher quality over a more consistent period.

    Wlad hasn't really shown much stylistic weakness neither. His chin might be a concern but you have to get past his jab first and for the last 6 years he's looked near unbeatable.

    I'd like to see him now against a prime quick power puncher but i'm not sure if anyone fits that description today. Pov and arreola are all I can think of.

    He did used to seem as if he had stamina difficulties but i'm confident that isn't the case as he's won on points and scored late stoppages.

    The sander loss was him being caught by a perfect counter and never recovering. How many heavyweights through history have the speed and size required to pull off a counter punch of such force against today's wlad? That's the only way I see him losing. He's too technically sound to be outboxed.

    I think louis has the skillset required to wear wlad down and score a come from behind stoppage. I think ali has the speed required to beat his jab and catch him.

    Liston has the reach and power combined with timing to catch him. Frazier has the attributes needed to slip his jab and land a leaping left hook at any point in the fight.

    Lewis and holmes are even picks.

    After that I wouldn't favour anyone I don't think.

    Tyson could catch him early but wlad could also comfortably keep him at arms reach. Foreman and bowe are too slow and telegraphic.

    Rocky, patterson, johnson, baer, schmelling and dempsey are too small.

    Holy would struggle to beat his jab but he makes it competitive.

    So that's 4 hw's i'd pick to beat him. 3 I put as a pick em. The rest i'd expect wlad to win. Ofcourse any hw can land the right punch and win but only those 4 would I expect it from.
     
  5. Conn

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    I'm 99% sure Peter would have killed Harrison in a professional fight.
     
  6. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    No...he doesn't.
     
  7. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    I'm not white..

    And I guess like other insecure white boys, you love "True Romance" clip because you get to see mainstream white actors saying "******."

    Well played, Power Puncher.

    This is really out of the blue isn't. Your response to a criticism of an asian fighter no less is to post this ****?


    Archie Moore was greater than Marciano. He should be ranked above him P4P and have argued as much. Its only apparently racists like youself who use Archie Moore as nothing more than a guage for Marciano's abilites when the man deserved so much more than that. His career is not defined by the Rocky Marciano fight. So you are really making yourself look stupid..but I guess that is nothing new for you.
     
  8. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    Really, I'm quite shocked. I've had fun with British posters and Nay-Sayer who I'm not sure are completely serious and bring these things on themselves, but

    this is a pretty offensive completely unprovoked racist attack.

    Power Puncher, showing his true colors I suppose.

    I'm doing something I've never done before and actually reporting your post. I don't like the seemingly racist venom behind it at all.
     
  9. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    It did surprise me also to be honest. Pp is usually a cool guy.
     
  10. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Mongoose always makes personal attacks on anyone who questions a Klitschko or Marciano or any of their opponents who make up their legacy. He gets super menstrual when it comes to them. Follow the thread he's already made 2 personal insults to posters on here and he holds grudges and makes personal insults when it's unrelated to the topic, he's a prize cockmuncher


    You're full of ****, claim racism when you get called on your racism, typical racist card trick, you're either a white, or this guy,

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHFUH_frhBw[/ame]
     
  11. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    So pointing out Tua's struggles with a grossly overweight Rahman is racism now and related to Marciano and the Klitschko Brothers?


    Ok.


    If you don't get banned for all this unprovoked racism, I will leave these forums for good. Plenty of better places to actaully discuss boxing.
     
  12. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    No...

    he doesn't.
     
  13. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    1. No your general attacks and stalking of anyone daring to critique the Klit bros or Roccoooooooo because they have 1 slight thing in common :huh

    2. Good **** off no one appreciates your menstrual homosexual lust after the Clit bros

    BTW you're been reported too :good
     
  14. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    1. I have not discussed the brothers once in this entire thread and have ignored your repeated attempts to drag me into some sort of irrelevant debate regarding Vitali's best wins. I don't stalk anybody but it sounds like I have a stalker.

    2. You can hit report all you want, I haven't done anything out of line in this thread. I only made a few jokes that were on subject and in taste.


    You are exposing yourself as a racist, sexiest, and now apparently homophobic Mongoose obsessed pyscho.
     
  15. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    1. Yet you've bitched at 2 posters commenting on other fighters having better wins than Vitali because you're a butt hurt clown :lol:

    2. Really, you've made numerous accusations, harassment and racial epitaphs in this thread and even if you edit them they'll be visible to any mod, so well done :good

    3. I'm obsessed by you yet you constantly look for my posts to talk **** when I'm typically ignoring you :lol:

    I have no problem with your sexual attraction to the Klits, so aren't homophobic, in fact I've made a post in defence of homosexuals today. Haven't ever had a problem with any race, just calling you on your racism. And I don't think anyone's laughed at any joke you've ever made, jus saying

    PS **** OFF