Could Dempsey Hurt The Super Heavies? Look At This.

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  1. janitor

    janitor VIP Member

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    We could start with his brutal and quick destructions of the #1 contender and the lineal champion!
     
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  2. Seamus

    Seamus Proud Kulak Full Member

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    No one is denying that Dempsey had power.

    How his skills and ability would translate to the better, more refined, more athletic heavies of today is a different question. Quite frankly, much of Dempsey's filmed work greatly disappoints me. He is rash, wide open and off balance. He looks distinctly vulnerable to a good sized professional heavyweight who can counter and control distance.

    Granted a great deal of his destruction of the ranks occurred off film or film did not survive.
     
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    No - just a lucky horse-shoe in his glove m8. :thumbsup


    Dempsey was a proper pikey. :bbb
     
  4. MMJoe

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    Plaster of paris
     
  5. mcvey

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    How about if Dempsey connected with Wlad' s chin,as Brewster and Sanders did?
     
  6. mcvey

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    So is the durability of Wlad's chin is it not?
     
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  7. Mendoza

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    There you have it. Anyone who can hit has a puncher's chance, and Dempsey certainly could hit. Dempsey also had excellent hand speed, and in his prime good movement skills. The stiff and slow fell victim to his whirlwind attack, however comparing some obscure big guy to a skilled modern day super heavyweight is like comparing a Lincoln Town car to a Mayback.
     
  8. mcvey

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    This is a post with a balanced argument.
     
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  9. mcvey

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    You miss the point , no one suggests that Wray had anywhere the skill set of the Klits . The point is Dempsey could shatter the jaw of a giant and is on record as having done so twice, therefore the argument that he is too small to compete with the latterday heavies is a shaky one imo. Factor in that Wlad for example ,has a less than top notch chin, and is uncomfortable under intense pressure, and you have a very interesting machup imo.
     
  10. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    This, I knew a 6'4 bodybuilding bouncer who got into an altercation with a 160lb amateur boxer who wasn't much cop who shattered said bouncers jaw. Does this mean a sub par middleweight is beating Wlad too :lol:

    Is Dempsey going to soak up the punches that Brewster did? Doubtful, hardly the best version of Wlad either
     
  11. janitor

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    It is, if only because you have to punch up.
     
  12. mcvey

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    Which it has conclusively proved ,does not work, the experiment was carried out by the now defunct Boxing Illustrated, using the dynamite hitting Cleveland Williams. If you are referring to the Willard fight ,both boxers came into the ring with their hands wrapped but glove off, both fighters hands were examined by the opposite corner ,look at the film.
     
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  13. Squire

    Squire Let's Go Champ Full Member

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    That guy was quite skinny for 7'2. He weighed the same as Vitali despite a 7" height advantage and was 50 lbs lighter than SNV, the same height as him

    Not that it means too much. We know from his height and weight he wasn't carrying a spare tyre, but his height and weight obviously weren't in proportion
     
  14. Absolutely!

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    No offence, but the point wasn't important enough to have been made in the first place. Tyson Fury could knock out Pacquiao. So what?
     
  15. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Is the question if Dempsey had the power to hurt super heavyweights ? If so, of course.
     
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