Jeffries Made $$$$$ On The Stage But Threw Away Any Chance Of Victory

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  1. mcvey

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    After he had announced his comeback , [he signed on August the 11th 1909 ,] Jim Jeffries, took advantage of the renewed interest in him to go on two ,back to back vaudeville tours, these netted him an absolute fortune in $$$$.

    However, in doing so ,he forfeited any chance of regaining his old time endurance and stamina he may have had, instead of sparring and engaging in a warm up bout or two, he was busy raking in the moolah.

    Despite pleas by his friends, Jeffries turned a deaf ear to them ,and went where the gold was ,on the stage.

    This link shows that in November of 1909 , [8 months before the fight ,] his closest associates were telling him to buckle down to real ring work.


    http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cdnc/cgi-bin/cd...0--1--txt-IN-Jack+munroe++fights+Jack+Johnson+----
     
  2. mcvey

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    INTERVIEW WITH JEFFRIES.

    http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cdnc/cgi-bin/cd...N-Jim+jeffries+lost+money+on+the+Munroe+fight----
     
  3. kingfisher3

    kingfisher3 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    would that age jeffries have a chance whatever shape he was in?
     
  4. mcvey

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    A 40 years old heavyweight champion is due to defend his title this week end.

    Jeffries was 35, with only 22 fights on his mileage clock, when he came back to challenge the 32 years old Johnson.

    Johnson himself kept his title until he was 37.
     
  5. mr. magoo

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    I don't think Jeffries had the ability to beat Johnson at that stage, and probably not even the right style for that matter either. In his prime it would have been an absolute war, but all the sparring, running, jump roping, and praying to christ almighty wasn't going to get him back the title...
     
  6. kingfisher3

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    i did not realise so few fights, maybe he would have a shot, although drinking/overeating will take toll on anyone's body.
     
  7. mr. magoo

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    Theres been a lot of speculation as to how many fights he's really had.. It wasn't uncommon back in those days for men to engage in bouts that were off the record, but its just too inconclusive to make any claims. I heard that John L. Sullivan had drinking problems, but I had never heard this claim made of Jeffries.
     
  8. kingfisher3

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    to be honest i seen the pictures and i assumed he liked a drink, not like an alcoholic.
    i also assumed that unrecorded fights would have been against such low quality opposition that he is unlikely to have taken much damage.
    but assumption is the mother of all ****ups
     
  9. janitor

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    There is significant evidence that he had an unrecorded fight against Frank Childs.
     
  10. mcvey

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    Really J? Have you seen it?
    I was under the impresssion this had generally been discredited.

    Jeffries made a reference to some exhibitions in the uk but no fights as some aver.

    Let us say he had another 6 or 7 fights,unlikely really as a world's champion's resume naturally comes under pretty close scrutiny, but ,if he did it would still put his total under 30,so ,as I pointed out ,negligible ring wear and tear.