Why is Mayweather not as idolized as Muhammad Ali?

What? Are you honestly saying Floyd isn't an atg? Plus how can you name Hoya as a stand out win when there is Hernandez, Castillo, Chico, Hatton, and Mosley on his resume? Floyd is def and atg. Name a fighter who has accomplished just as much that isn't an atg?

If Floyd was in that era (fab 4), the only one he could have possibly fought is Duran. Leonard and Hearns would have been middleweights by the time Floyd became a welter.

 

Because of Floyd's relationship with Leonard Ellerbe.

Ali was heterosexual.

 

:huh How are you coming to this conclusion when there's no time frame to actually reference?

 

He's not a HW

 

who would want to idolized a woman beater?

 

Its based on Floyd not starting as a welter. If all three started in 1977, Floyd wouldn't have became a welter until 1986. It took Floyd 9 years to make welter while Hearns and Leonard started their careers as one. Tommy was a middleweight in 86 and Leonard didn't fight in 86. He fought in 87 against Hagler which was at middleweight. Correct me if I made a mistake :good

 

:rofl That's what I've been wondering all along.

 

Ahh. :good But being in their era doesn't necessarily mean he'd start as a pro at '77, and follow the same path of moving up. Actually, I don't think he'd move up in weight as quickly either. Was much different then. He'd have to deal with the Arguello and Pryor first. Maybe even Duran before WW. Being in that era would have made his career steps MUCH different.

 

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The admiration for Ali came due to his stance on the Vietnam war, the way in which he articulated himself, he was fresh, original and charming, and politcal movements at the time gave the platform to make his opinion heard and respected. Black rights, Vietnam etc.

People watched Boxing to see Ali, they did not watch Ali to see Boxing.

Floyd comes from a totally different era, he's also not been blessed with the charm of Ali, nor the ever changing challenges to Social convention.

 

Floyd's only really good wins are Castillo, Chico and Hernandez. Everybody else was far past their prime (Mosley, ODLH) or not even close to ATG status (Hatton, Gatti). Had PBF continued on the path he was on as a LW, he had a real shot at being considered one of the greats but he's blown it. Dude either lost confidence when he moved up in weight or decided to err on the side of caution if he could still get paid doing it. Whichever it was doesn't really matter. Floyd slipped. Now that his career is about to start winding down it's suddenly about his legacy, and people are quickly realizing that he doesn't really have one worth speaking of. Unlike Pac. That's got to be what really hurts the *****s. Floyd is going to be thought of historically as maybe Aaron Pryor status, or even below. Pac is going to be greater than Henry Armstrong. That's got to hurt.

 

The LW Floyd, imho and very arguably, would have fought and beaten all those guys. That's what makes his career so sad to me, we could have seen some GREAT fights with Floyd. There's no denying his talent, but his aversion to risk overshadows his entire career.

 

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******ed *****s defending their idol

 

Ali earned admiration for that, but it wouldn't have been nearly what it became if not for the fact that he faced down and slew monsters like Liston and Foreman. That REALLY put the public in his corner.

 

The reason I choose 1977 is that is when Leonard and Hearns started. Yes people always mention Floyd against Hearns and Leonard but don't mention other great fighters from that era. Now that I think about it, I don't believe he would move up in weight so fast either. That era was filled with great fighters so I could see him staying at a certain weight for a little longer.