Kevin Rooney should be training Derek Chisora not Shot Mormeck!

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  1. Tin Man Waldo

    Tin Man Waldo Freakishly Fragile Full Member

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    Shot-To-Shite 40 year old Cruiserweight Mormeck is a waste of Kevin Rooney. Shot Mormeck could have the holy spirits of Eddie Futch and Cus D'Amato in his corner and his chances with Wladimir Klitschko would still be 0%. Seriously it is beyond a joke. Rooney did great things with Mike Tyson from 1985-1988 and good work with Vinny Paz's comeback. He is a whiz at motivating his boxers to get into great physical shape, motivating them in the corner and teaching the full Cus D'Amato PeekaBoo style complete with fast reactive headmovement, comeforward-counters and devasteting combinations using the Willie Numbers system. Chisora is young at 28 years old, a whole 7 years younger than Ring/WBA/IBF/WBO World Champion Wladimir Klitschko. I saw a lot of ability and potential in Chisora in his robbery loss to Robert Helenius and his valiant effort winning about a quarter of the rounds from WBC Beltholder Vitali Klitschko. If Chisora hired Kevin Rooney as his main trainer and got into better shape at 230-235lbs rather than 241-243lbs to be faster with punches and headmovement and throw more punches without getting tired. With D'Amato style PeekaBoo headmovement and combinations, Chisora could pose a real threat to Wladimir in about 3 years time, when he as improved loads and Wladimir is getting older and no longer peaked.

    Thoughts?
     
  2. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yes, hes only 28 years old but he'll be on the decline in 3 years. He's not a big puncher and he gets hit WAY to much. It's just too late in the game for a new trainer...even a seemingly perfect one like Roooney...to make a difference.
     
  3. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "Prime" Chisora has only 1 big fight left in him and since Wlad won't b his next , if they ever fight it will b more like post prime Wlad vs shot Chisora .
    Had it been Wladimir instead of Vitali vs Chisora in Saturday's night , Chisora would have been Wladimir's 4th loss , but Wlad & Steward were smart enough 2 let Chisora fight d other big men 1 after d other until he's nearly burnt out now .
     
  4. Foreman Hook

    Foreman Hook ☆☆☆ G$ora ☆☆☆ Full Member

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    Gsora is a G, but he will be a past-primer himself by age 30 at most, cos of his proper physically-taxing eating-punches style.:!:It is TOO LATE to improve Gsora now, so appreciate what we got - a crazy muthaphukkin G. :rasta


    Foreman Hoooooooooooooooooooooooook!:smoke
     
  5. salty trunks

    salty trunks Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The fighter has to pick who he wants to train him. Chisora is a bigger waste of time than Mormeck.

    Will be nice to see Rooney in a heavyweight championship fight again. Mormeck will be in shape at least.
     
  6. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    It's a damn shame it's a gross mismatch, & still would be even if Mormeck was 5 years younger.

    Salty, what do you think of the potential in Seth Mitchell? I think Rooney would be ideal for him.
     
  7. salty trunks

    salty trunks Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mitchell's still green, but he seems to go for it and Rooney likes ballzy guys. Could be a good match.

    Mormeck really has no business messing with 245 pound heavyweights at all, but again lets see what Rooney can have him bring to the table.

    Rooney knows boxing and he knows having had Tyson that size doesnt matter when you take an opponent out of their comfort zone and thats what he has to do to Klitschko. Make it a street fight. Make Wlad miss, get inside and rough him up.
     
  8. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't think Mormeck has the reflex to go often center very quickly at all.

    And if he tries to fight in the D'Amato way, Wlad will murder him.
     
  9. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    If Shot Mormeck tries to fight in any way, other than constantly retreating in a defensive shell, Wlad will murder him. That much is pretty clear. Wlad can pick & choose the round.
     
  10. MagnaNasakki

    MagnaNasakki Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wlad doesn't murder anybody unless he opens up and tries.

    If Mormeck fights smart and doesn't try to reach out of his comfort zone, I wouldn't doubt Wlad lets him hang around. Thats a consistent element of his style.
     
  11. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    Well you were trying to say Shot Mormeck automatically gets murdered for fighting D'Amato style, however all I meant was, that the same logical applies for him employing any come-forward aggressive style against Wlad. A Frazier style would get him destroyed too for example. When you say "fights smart" do you mean like a poor version of what Chambers achieved nothing with? It really is pathetically hopeless, as a much smaller guy trying to beat Wlad by countering him on the backfoot or trying to outbox him in any shape or form while going backwards. I do see your point though, Wlad could've destroyed Chambers in the second round, but due his safety-first & safety-second style, combined with Eddie's, it almost went the distance. Whereas with Mormeck, he'll probably keep coming forward, so Wlad can take him out whenever he wants. While obviously, the additional advertising revenue is a financial incentive to carry his opponents.
     
  12. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    David Haye and Derek Chisora are both mutha****in made men. They've brought swagger back to our heaviest division, I've missed heavyweight swag so much.
     
  13. Kalasinn

    Kalasinn ♧ OG Kally ♤ Full Member

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    Nothing like a bit of G-thuggery to get me excited about the current Heavyweight scene again! :D
     
  14. salty trunks

    salty trunks Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mormeck won't fight in the DAmato style he just needs to understand the principles of beating a guy like Wlad and try to win. He's not going to win a boxing match. His only chance is to try and figure out a way to get close and rough without taking too much punishment. A tall task for sure.
     
  15. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Yeah I don't know how much potential I can assign to a guy on just having a few galant losing efforts or being the victim of the occasional robbery alone. He needs to actually get in there and decisively beat someone of notoriety in order to be considered world class.. And being somewhat close to age 30 with perhaps only 18 or 19 fights, his prospects are not looking too good. If I had a crystal ball ( which I don't ) I'm guessing that it would show him being an upper tier journeyman or low end fringe type in three years from now.