Pacquiao: Mayweather didn't want the fight

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  1. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    How can I make this easier for you to understand...

    Pacquiao cannot make a fight without Arum as he has a contract with him, so talk of Pacquiao agreeing to fight him if he agrees to 50/50 is moot.

    He can't make a fight without Arum negotiating and promoting it and he showed no interest in making the fight.

    Do you understand?


    I've said Mayweather should accept 50/50 btw, the point I've made is they need to sit down and negotiate to make the fight and not a quick phone call between boxers, Arum won't do this though and blocked any attempts by Golden Boy to contact him.
     
  2. puga_ni_nana

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    sorry but all your point is just basing of arum and would excuse floyd in anything he does because of arum. so no matter what floyd would do, you'll just excuse him.

    so in the first place why wouldn't floyd accept a 50/50 split? it would be a problem not only this time but in future negotiations and floyd laid another roadblock foundation.

    and the quick phone call was done by floyd himself and not by pacquiao. are you blaming pacquiao for answering floyd's call and asking for a 50/50 split?
     
  3. sampsonsimpson

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    some of you arent very bright

    the article states that, "According to Yahoo! Sports, the fight would likely generate over $160 million in pay-per-view money."

    about half of that (~55%) is going straight to the network and cable/satellite providers

    ill let you geniuses derive the quotient of $80 mill divided by two

    article from box insider
     
  4. Sir Koolkid

    Sir Koolkid Active Member Full Member

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    real talk
     
  5. HoldMyBeer

    HoldMyBeer Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    they both ****ed it up. anyone who wants to take sides and sit on this forum crying out one side of the argument needs to stop putting fighters on a pedestal and get a girlfriend
     
  6. Toontoon

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    They are based around Arum because he is the one that has to negotiate and promote the fight on behalf of Pacquiao, something he refused to do so any talk of th fight would definitely be on if Mayweather agreed to 50/50 is bollocks.

    I'm not sure why Mayweather wouldn't accept 50/50 but then Pacquiao led him to believe that he would be happier to accept less, these are the things that your promoter sits down and discusses to get the deal done, not something that happens in a quick phone call between 2 boxers.

    I'm not blaming Pacquiao for answering the phone, I'm blaming Arum for it getting to the point that 2 boxers have to call each other up to see if they want the fight as he won't sit down with Golden Boy to negotiate and make the fight happen.
     
  7. Toontoon

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    Before anyone thinks Arum wouldn't walk away from the rich pickings of a Mayweather vs Pacquiao fight, lets not forget these comments...

    Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

    "That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."
     
  8. puga_ni_nana

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    so in effect, you are still blaming pacquiao for floyd not agreeing to a 50/50 split?

    so for you, floyd rejecting the 50/50 split is not important in the current and future negotiations of this fight right?

    so why did floyd called pacquiao and not arum if you think pacquiao has no power to enforce a floyd figth which he actually requested arum when they talked? it makes no sense for floyd to talk to pacquiao directly and offer him $40M w/ no PPV upside if he thinks pac is so powerless in making the fight.
     
  9. sampsonsimpson

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    read my last post ... floyd essentially offered pac 50/50

    and with pac's recent shaky performances + his unofficial PPV numbers, that was a generous offer
     
  10. puga_ni_nana

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    nothing but based from an article. this fight can earn more. so why make it complicated and just make it a fair 50/50 split?

    and if you think floyd is very generous in offering a $40M guarantee w/out PPV upside, why can't he accept arum's offer of $45M guarantee of the same terms as what floyd has offered. by your logic, it would be 55/45 or 60/40 for floyd.
     
  11. JASPER

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    Stupid tards do no know the logical order of things:

    1) Both sides agree to fight

    2) They nego terms of that fight

    If you do not have 1 you cannot have 2. BOB said NO to 1 so everything after that doesn't mean a damn thing . . . but whatever helps you sleep at night!
     
  12. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    so can you explain why floyd rejected a fair 50/50 split from pac?
     
  13. sampsonsimpson

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    arum did not make that offer, he didnt make ANY offer ... he dodged negotiations like the plague

    biased article? its simple math ... 2.5 mill buys x $60 = 150 mill, so they rounded up a bit

    it was generous considering that no one knows pac's actual ppv numbers for his last few fight AND the that most observers feel he lost his last fight ... floyd didnt release the official numbers for his last fight, but he didnt get handled by his opponent, either

    people are making it out like floyds initial offer was disrespectful or something, he was trying to jump start negotiations ... but arum wanted no part in negotiating with floyds camp
     
  14. puga_ni_nana

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    sorry but arum offered it.
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    http://www.manilastandardtoday.com/insideSports.htm?f=/2012/january/28/sports1.isx&d=2012/january/28


    i did not say your article is "biased" but i said that your figure is "based" nothing from a guess from an article. this fight could make more. so as to make it more simple, why won't floyd just make it a 50/50 split?

    and if you think $40M with no PPV upside was too generous from floyd, then why won't he accept arum's offer of $45M guarantee under the same terms?

    also according to koncz, floyd has a third option which is to accept a 55-45 sharing for the winner.

    all these proposals from pac's camp were rejected by floyd and opted to fight someone else instead.
     
  15. JASPER

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    you just proved my point . . . you guys do not have clue how things work. If Arum won't come to the table than nothing else matters. its not that hard, 1 has to happen before 2.