Which of these British Heavyweights in their prime does David Haye beat?

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  1. Longcount

    Longcount boxing Full Member

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    I have never understood why people rank Bruno so highly. His much vaunted power never despatched a true top tier opponent and he came up short in all his big fights bar McCall.

    As for the list I think that on his best day he beats all of them with the exception of Lewis. It might be different if he fought Cooper at cruiserweight.
     
  2. miguel2010

    miguel2010 His hands are his weapons Full Member

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    Bruno was always troubled by real power.

    All except Lennox.
     
  3. Behave.

    Ruiz and Valuev really aren't all that as a HW resume, and Barrett lost to pretty much every good fighter he faced.

    All the others at least had some form, Cooper beat some solid operators and clearly hits hard enough to put Haye to sleep.

    Could Haye beat some of them? Yeah sure, but the likes of Danny Williams could take Haye's shots and fire back with their own.

    If Williams hit Haye it'd be good night, especially with the left hook.

    Against Hide.... who lands first? Haye is probably the more durable of the two but Hide was quicker and a harder puncher. I'd imagine Haye's low workrate would count against him here and he'd get clipped.

    Because despite being pretty robotic and having poor stamina he was a good operator, and beat some good fighters.

    Haye talked a good game but never really delivered. Bruno proved more in his KO loss to Lewis than Haye ever seriously thought of doing.

    :lol:

    Something Haye doesn't really possess. Haye could stop him but the smart money has to be on Frank being too good, his jab would keep David at bay for large spells, if he could land the hook off it, count to ten boys, it's over.

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    Yet again, another example of Haye being ridiculously overrated because he beat Mormeck, Maccarinelli, Barrett, Valuev and Ruiz. Jesus Christ what a legend.

    Spoke like a legend, fought like a loser half the time.
     
  4. dftaylor

    dftaylor Writer, fanatic Full Member

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    Don't be ridiculous... there's hating Haye then ignoring reality. Lewis and Bruno aside, Haye is better than all on that list.

    Bruno would get to Haye early on, Lennox would smash him up.
     
  5. CrocodileDundee

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    I think he beats them all apart from Lewis and Bugner....
     
  6. tman17tm

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    All but Lennox, a few of them have a punchers chance, Cooper is the only other one I see with more than that
     
  7. teeto

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    Lennox Lewis- total mismatch

    Frank Bruno- Frank Bruno has the power to have Haye walking the street of dreams. I'm not too sure why many people think Haye would smash him, I need an explanation. It's not like Haye is just gunna connect and lay him out, Haye's combination punching can be exposed when it needs to be there, and he's not laying Bruno out with one dig. It could possibly go either way but I'm definitely making Bruno the favourite.

    Gary Mason- definitely Haye imo, Haye is not a boxer but a glorified slugger who puts full force into every punch he ever throws, but he does it with class and that class would be too much for Mason imo.

    Henry Cooper- Unsure. You basically have two punchers, one a right hand puncher, one a left hook puncher. One likes to advance and constantly find a home for the left hook, the other likes to let opponents walk onto his right hand. Cooper can lay Haye out if Thompson can, that is a guarantee. That's not to say he will though. Haye is going to need to lay him out, do we see it happening? Haye isn't going to start weaving a boxing masterclass of snappy jabs and punches in bunches, people need to drop that talk, when does it happen, in the grand scheme of things? People referring to his Valuev 'performance' are funny to me, as if that was some kind of Jersey Joe Walcott display of footwork and countering. It could go either way, I'm favouring Cooper reluctantly.

    Herbie Hide- Haye would win this imo, Haye is going to be able to hit the busy Hide all night.

    Danny Williams- Haye, it would be a great fight though, and Haye would know he's been in one.

    Brian London- defo Haye. I've seen a lot of Brian London footage and I think Haye would be teeing off with some major leather as it progresses.

    Joe Bugner- could go either way, both good fighters.



    Also, is this Earl Hickey a troll? I saw him say Haye has similar traits to Muhammad Ali and Floyd Patterson. I'm glad I've never had a conversation with him before, what a ****ing salesman.
     
  8. Yeah, it was a big shot, but SNV was absolutely knackered, and was a pretty lousy fighter by then anyway.

    The concern from a Haye fan's POV is that he loads up on his punches too much, a more intelligent fighter than he's faced can see them coming, and with a bit of mobility avoid them and/or counter - which again Haye is open for.

    Haye is the one with the puncher's chance in these contests, I feel.

    He's never really out-boxed anyone, has he? By out-box I mean actually out-box, not just box on the outside in a cynical way and get a decision - ala SNV.

    Instead he's just hit them on the chin and moved on, that's the kinda thing that didn't happen particularly often to the likes of Bruno, Bugner, Cooper etc.
     
  9. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Haye doesn't box, he counters with full blooded 'I'm going to make your grandchildren feel this' punches

    he is a slugger, I don't know why people take offense when I say that, there have been some amazing sluggers. Haye puts full ****ing force and ridiculous power into every punch he ever throws. He probably breaks peoples hands when he shakes them, he should relax a little.
     
  10. davidjay

    davidjay Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He's be either too quick or too big for most except definitely Lewis, maybe one or two others. Bugner at his best would give him trouble, he would outlast Bruno provided he got past the first few rounds. The intriguing one would be Haye v Cooper at cruiser.
     
  11. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Bugner is underrated. He beats Haye comfortably.
     
  12. Exactly, you'd think he was a heavyweight Sugar Ray Leonard the way some people rave about his skills.

    He's as one-dimensional as any HW titlist in recent memory.

    Hit them with the right hand, if they don't go over, hit them again.

    That's the long and short of his ''skillset'' that we saw at HW. He regressed a fair bit from what he looked like he was capable of becoming.
     
  13. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    yeah, I'm not disrespecting Haye, just disrespecting the guys that think he is the heavyweight Floyd Mayweather because he has a fast full blooded take your head off punch.
     
  14. Johnny Coyle

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    none of them....

    Hayes pants... No boxing skill... hes a runner with a big right hand and a soft chin...

    Danny Williams is a better boxer fighter in his prime than Haye.. Hayes just more of an attraction because hes got a big mouth... hes hype, a conman
     
  15. HMSTempleGarden

    HMSTempleGarden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bugner - he wasn't active enough in a fight, think Haye would pick him apart.