Pacquiao: Mayweather didn't want the fight

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  1. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    well, i have seen some excuses from different floyd fans on this thread alone. the most famous one is that arum would not let the fight happen wether floyd accepted 50/50 or not. my point here is that, let's say arum is at fault this time for the sake of argument. but after the cotto fight, floyd would continue to demand more than 50/50 and floyd fans would still defend floyd's stance.

    another floyd fan has defended the $40M offer and said that floyd is essentially offering a 50/50 based from an article's estimated earnings for this fight.

    yet some floyd fan would go the route of blaming pacquiao since pacquiao had said that he would accept a lesser split when they have no issue before hand that this fight is a 50/50 until floyd rejected it.
     
  2. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Floyd was winning the PR so bad, in a moment of madness with fiddy they probably thought "think how bad Pac would look if he ducks after we personally call him". I think Floyd genuinely thought Pac was scared and when Pac called his bluff he throw out some ridiculous offer he had to refuse.

    No ***** could justify 40mil and no ppv upside. The same *****'s were justifying Floyd's claim to wanting 100mil for the fight...
     
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    so now that floyd is sure that pac wants the fight. pac even said that floyd should just agree to a 50/50 split and he got the fight. so when floyd was so sure of it, why did he rejected it all of a sudden?
     
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    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    I agree completely that it should be 50/50, but to me it's a moot point until Arum comes to the negotiating table to attempt to make the fight happen, if that happened and they couldn't agree a split then I'd blame Mayweather too but until then Arum takes the blame.
     
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    just browse a couple of pages up and you would find one defending floyd's ***** ass offer.
     
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    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    Probably because he was under the impression that Pacquiao would accept less, since he said he would.

    That is why you hire people to negotiate for you.
     
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    Respect to Pacquiao.

    Nobody buy the Floyd vs Cotto fight! :deal
     
  8. puga_ni_nana

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    floyd tried to negotiate with pacquiao instead of arum. floyd must have confidence with pacquiao to make the fight right?

    arum tried to negotiate with haymon before but floyd took a vacation instead. who did you blame that time?
     
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    didn't floyd and pac's team already agree to a 50/50 split during the first negotiations?

    and pac-jmm3 had just outsold floyd-ortiz before. there is no reason why floyd won't accept a 50/50 split this time unless he is fighting someone else.
     
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    Midwest_Chopper Shalom Full Member

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    Floyd vs Cotto will destroy Pacquiao vs Bradley. And since Pacquiao isnt as good as Floyd he could lose or look bad in a win where he gets another gift.

    All likely hood Pac will get less anyway when Arum decides to cash out.
     
  11. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    Floyd went directly to Pacquiao as his promoter wouldn't negotiate, he knows Pacquiao isn't in a position to make the fight without Arum but wanted Pac to put pressure on him to make the fight.

    If you seen a car for sale for $5k and when you phoned up were told they now wanted $6k, you wouldn't agree to pay it straight off even if you felt the car was worth it. You can use the same analogy for the phone call.

    As I've already said that's why you get your promoters to negotiate and come out with the best deal possible.

    I blamed Mayweather for the fight not happening back then btw, unlike yourself I'm capable of forming an opinion on things without bias.
     
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    I am not a mind reader so I do not know why another person does anything. The only point that matters is Pac cannot fight without Arums Okay because they have little something called a contract. If Arum said that the fight would not happen even with 50-50 that means the fight is not happening. Do I have to explain this to you again or do you understand that 1 has to come before 2 now?

    PBF tried everything to start Negos but bob shut it down before they even started:bart
     
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    so what is their to negotiate if the first stumbling block of split was not settled?

    from your opinion, floyd caleld pacquiao to judge if pac is interested. he found out that pac was interested. floyd offered a guarantee without a PPV upside. pac has been receiving upside from PPV maybe for his last 10 fights or more. how could floyd offer such a deal and expect pac to accept it?

    now pac was more rational and offered a 50/50 split (which was agreed by both parties during the first nego) and was the only fair split for a fight of this magnitude. floyd said no and pac could not get a 50/50 split.

    then next, we found out that floyd would be fighting cotto. but still floyd has no fault in it according to you guys.
     
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    so what is the point of floyd calling pac then?

    did floyd tried to settle the split first?
     
  15. mrjotatp4p

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    It doesn't matter why Floyd called Pac. Arum won't come to the table kid. Get over it. "Even with a 50/50 split the fight still will not happen right now" Bob Arum. If Arum would have taking the calls from Shaefer and Ellerber back in November when they contacted Top Rank they could have negotiated and worked things out. If Bob would have taking the numerous calls from Shaefer they could have worked things out. Until Arum decides to come to the table Floyd and Manny can talk on the phone all they want and even go off and **** hoes together. It doesn't matter brah. :patsch