Manny did offer Floyd 45/55 to the winner.

shut up man-I already owned your point lil guy-You CONTINUE to ask questions in rebuttal-Horrible way to debate. I answered your question in 5424234423 threads man-shut up and make a new argument-yours got owned.

FLOYD CAN MAKE 40-50 MILLION FIGHTING PRETTY MUCH ANYONE.

FLOYD CAN ONLY MAKE 60-70 MILLION FIGHTING PACQUIAO.

PACQUIAO CAN MAKE 20-25 MILLION FIGHTING PRETTY MUCH ANYONE

PACQUIAO CAN ONLY MAKE 40-50 MILLION FIGHTING FLOYD.

 

I hate getting into the numbers because both sides kinda have a point, But when you look at head to head fighters that they have in common PBF has out sold Manny by a mile except for JMM where it was the third fight in trilogy.

Given that undeniable fact PBF has a case for asking for more. not to mention his business model where assumes more risk than Manny would.

I think 50-50 is okay but I can see why PBF think he should get more and why Manny stated he would be willing to take less

 

i asked you a simple question.

didn't floyd and his team have no problem with 50/50 before back in 2009 when they have their first negotiations?

 

pacquiao is a joke, he just got outboxed by marquez, i have no idea why he is p4p #1 let alone even being entertained as a threat to the great american mayweather.

 

De La Hoya Mayweather 2,400,000
Hatton Mayweather 920,000
Marquez Mayweather 1,005,000
Mayweather Mosley 1,400,000
Mayweather Ortiz 1,250,000

6,975,000-Average is 1,395,000


De La Hoya Pacquiao 1,200,000
Hatton Pacquiao 850,000
Cotto Pacquiao 1,300,000
Clottey Pacquiao 750,000
Margarito Pacquiao 1,150,000
Mosley Pacquiao 1,300,000
Marquez Pacquiao 3 1,400,000

7,950,000-Average is 1,135,000

Numbers are approx-Please feel free to correct these numbers if they were reported different.

THEY ARE NOT GOING TO IGNORE THESE NUMBERS, NOR ARE THEY JUST GONNA SAY, "WELL IN THE LAST 3 FIGHTS FLOYD HAS AVERAGED LESS." In negotiations, they will use a common factor which is clearly the Oscar De La Hoya fight for BOTH FIGHTERS.

It has taken Pacquiao 7 fights, to do what Floyd did in 5.
Floyd Mayweather averages more PPV buys and MORE REVENUE than Pacquiao. Each time Pac fights, his promoter has to come out of pocket. His promoter has had to spend money on expenses 7 times while Floyd's promoter/manager have had to come out of pocket 5 times. On top of that info Floyd does more revenue then Manny.

 

First negotiation:good Could care less-Didn't Manny NOT agree to simply be blood tested back then, but then he gave in on the blood tests?:huh:think

Pugi your POINT is mute. It does not matter in the negotiations as to what was offered in 2009. In 2009, Pacquiao ducked a drug test after his team said he'd have no problem with one.

Now go read the numbers. Get me the revenue numbers too...I don't have those and they side on me and my debate.:deal

 

right...so again John Anthony-

Mayweather recognizes that Manny can not make the type of money without fighting Mayweather himself. In the mean time Floyd CAN make that type of money fighting anyone else. Manny weakened his position with his statement in he'd take less money. So Pac can go make his 20 million and in the mean time Floyd can go make his 40-50 million. Pac makes 25 million at best...Plus he pay his promoter a much heavier percentage than Floyd pays Oscar/Haymon.

 

so what happened and floyd moved the goal-post again?

pac always concedes to floyd demands while floyd keeps moving the goal-post. that is my point and it is hardly "mute".

 

why are you happy with floyd earning figures without fighting pacquiao? are you a real boxing fan or you just want floyd to earn more?

 

Yes he does-Floyd is the "A" side in the negotiations just as Oscar was the "A" side in negotiations.

Your not accepting that Floyd is a bigger draw. Your trying to argue that he is not.

The numbers are there for you to twist n turn as fans like you always do, to try and make it "look" like Pacquiao is so great.

Floyd the bigger draw as the NUMBERS SHOW.bbb

 

yeah its so ridiculous that everyone else in the sport accepts it with no issue, even miguel cotto. its only ridiculous in pacland

 

LOL-Look at your rebuttal-Yea you were owned. Way off topic-

Gotta love these pacquiao fans. :rofl:rofl Typical p4ct4rd response. Look at your rebuttal. I just owned you like no other.:rofl

Pugi, wasn't it you that showed me PPV number comparisons but you left out Hatton and Clottey for Pacquiao.atsch

 

You guys can stop debating bc it is pointless. Until Bob Arum answers the phone or make a call to Shaefer and sit down with the mediator to negotiate it is all pointless. Manny and Floyd can talk all they want and go **** hookers together as well. Until the guys that they actually pay to work out the contracts it doesn't matter.

Bob Arum stated in the post fight after Marquez that they will go after a 4th fight with him. "May 5th doesn't make any sense right now" He made countless other excuses as well and most importantly he did not answer any of the numerous calls from Mayweather reps so that negotiations could begin. I don't care if you are a fan of Floyd, Manny, or both. Its not going to happen if Arum doesn't negotiate. Its funny bc Cotto's people knew who to call to negotiate but Arum doesn't. /thread