Roy Jones Jr vs Floyd Patterson 12 rounds, SMW,LH, CW

you're a ****in troll

 

At first I thought it an interesting match up because Floyd really under performed so many times in his career as champion however on thinking it through I think a prime Patterson is too much ... as fast as anyone Jones ever fought, a much harder puncher and able to handle Roy's power ... Floyd would put on the pressure and be too much ..

 

At smw i'd expect jones to score an early ko as i'd imagine him to be much stronger.

At lhw it's a case of who lands first but I actually think jones is going to be the one carrying his power late on so provided he boxes smart for the first half of the fight he should be able to load up late on and force a late stoppage but more likely a decision looms. At lhw jones still has the physical edge imo but not by much. All we really have to go off is the maxim victory where he was robbed, jones achieved greatness at the weight and his power is there to see in the division. I think floyd is slightly drained here so won't be as quick nor powerful.

At cw, against a prime fully trained floyd, jones gets overwhelmed early door because floyd matches his speed and his power is devastating against anyone with less than iron in their jaw p4p. Early ko for floyd.

 

Jones is way too fast for Patterson

 

Jones couldn't handle his power at any weight. Patterson's power would've completely obliterated Jones at any weight. It's not that Jones is glass jawed like people say he is, but he can't compete with Floyd who had exceptional power at any weight, especially against other light heavies..

 

Floyd blows out RJJ

 

You have never seen Floyd i guess, he is faster and more powerful than Tarver , how did Tarver do?

 

patterson is condered the fastest heavyweight until ali came along. handspeed wise its hard to get out the way his leaping left hook while still covered was hard to read and sparked a few guys out.

physically much stronger than jones. small for a heavyweight in the 60's but his long jab and solid defence and slipping skils. jones can get out the way from a patterson hook but i doubt he can get out of the way from the 2nd shot. and i think for that patterson wins at cruiser and possibly light heavy.

 

First of all Patterson's punch resistance was not abysmal in any sense of the word, it was somewhat lacking for sure. But most myths of his glass jaw came from being obliterated by Liston, who happens to be one of the hardest punchers of all time.

Or Ali, the greatest heavyweight of all time, compare that to Roy Jones, who got sparked by the likes of Antonio Tarver, who was an average hitter at best.

Jones's Jaw would be shattered as soon as Patterson landed clean IMO

 

I always though in terms of raw hand speed Roy was considered the fastest

 

Jones v Godzilla

hell, he's to fast for Godzilla.

 

It seems like everyone on this thread believes that the outcome hinges upon RJJ's ability/inability to dodge Patterson's bombs. Do you guys really think that someone with the reflexes of a peak '97-'00 Jones would let that big cartoonish hook hit him flush? C'mon guys...
I know Patterson has the superior resume and should rightfully be higher on any reasonable p4p list but this fight would not be close. Peak Jones handled punchers and pressure very well so please watch video from his prime('97-'01) before posting on this thread.
Let's also not forget that Patterson was very easy to find since he'd usually make it his business to find you. He wasn't some dancing counter puncher or a defensive spoiler type fighter. He was a pressure fighter with loads of hand speed and power BUT...he got hit A LOT and this would spell doom against someone who possessed every possible physical advantage. And please don't respond with references to the Tarver and Johnson fights as these went down after he had to drain back down to 175 after the Ruiz fight and he clearly wasn't the same guy.

 

you should check out meldrick taylor.

well yeah from a-b at 160 to 168. but handspeed has 2 things. getting a to b quickly and fast combinations. roy could do both but his low hands when he threw always got him in trouble against a well schooled fighter. griffin just ignored all of roys speed by feinting getting roy to throw then jabbing out of the way which roy couldn't get out of the way of and walk straight into. then jabbed to the body while roy was on the back foot. and if jones got inside he wasoul hsutle and throw. by the end of it jones just backed himself up into a corner to which griffin let loose.

roy jones jr is considered one of the greatest athletes to ever grace our sport. but fought in a circus of poor fighters at 174 of the late 90's early 00's, so when he did get challenged by some real competition he looked human. most people feel that hopkins of the early 00's would of had the tools to beat him, james toney might not of been able to get to him but his wieght issues where always going to be a problem.

anyways just started to rant there. yes handspeed power chin stamina are great attributes but you have to be close enough to let your handspeed show, you need to land to let your power tell, you have to receive punishment to show good chin and you have to put a high workrate through a whole fight to let it shine.


whats interesting also is that floyd and roy in thier careers are so similar. fearful amatuers, where seen as highly regarded prospects (floyd was seen as the new ray robinson in some parts of ny, and roy was just a phenom that looked above boxing), moved up through the weights above what there build was expected to.

 

Roy Jones, with his hands down dancing around in front of Patterson?

See the Moore vs Patterson fight for the immediate result.