The all things technical thread.

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by slip&counter, Feb 5, 2012.


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  1. norfolkinchance

    norfolkinchance Active Member Full Member

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    roy jones took a training session the real fight club in london and specifically addressed this. he said thumb up. and with thumb up you can throw multiple hooks. cant do that thumb down!
     
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  2. Jdsm

    Jdsm Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You just told the guy to leave it out of this thread! :lol:

    Let's get back to the technical **** boys :deal
     
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  3. Flea Man

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    :patsch I'm so sorry norfolkinchance, genuine slip (excuse the pun)
     
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  4. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Yep. It's definitely more fluid.
     
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  5. izmat

    izmat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :patschDoesn't prove anything. If you had evidence of a fighter's conditioning weakening as a result of changing from old school to modern methods then you would have a case.
     
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  6. Flea Man

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    I just gave you two examples, but don't worry about it. You must work in the field as you obviously have an agenda.
     
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  7. norfolkinchance

    norfolkinchance Active Member Full Member

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    forgiven :thumbsup
     
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  8. izmat

    izmat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :nut
     
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  9. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I don't thin it's fair to hammer modern conditioning for the aspect of fighters being tired after 12 rounds. They train for 12 rounds. If they get pushed by the opponent, they're gonna be tired.

    On the other hand, I do think modern strength training can be a little dodge. It's true that the most explosive fighters of the modern era - Tyson, Jones, Lopez - eschewed weights at their best. But we saw only recently the inelasticity of a fighter who trains with weights in Tavoris Cloud. It's not a coincidence that many of the fighters famous for weight training - Bruno, Cloud, Mosley - don't have the same planes of movement as fighters who don't bother, though they may have certain advantages in strength, and nor is it a coincidence that when Tyson and Jones embraced weight-training it cost them in terms of mobility and elasticity.

    I think weight-training has a place in boxing, but the idea that it lends itself to some inherent advantage is wrong.
     
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  10. Flea Man

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    How did I not? Jones is well-documented, his stamina dropped off big time when he started employing modern s&c. In fact I'm pretty sure his training regime for the first Tarver fight is online somewhere. And he gassed after two rounds :patsch
     
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  11. Spearmint Rhino

    Spearmint Rhino Guest

    I think that weight training gives certain fighters with certain styles an advantage.

    Though I think a fighter like Ricky Hatton - his stamina kinda tailed off towards the end of his career, the more he did the weights. Clearly in this case it's necessary to consider 1000 pints of lager outside of training camp and the 20 takeaways a week diet too.
     
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  12. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Haven't we dealt with weights already?
     
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  13. izmat

    izmat Boxing Addict Full Member

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    any source to verify this?
    I've only heard about him using weights to train his upper body was for the Ruiz fight
     
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  14. Flea Man

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    If someone's gonna' call me ignorant....
     
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  15. Spearmint Rhino

    Spearmint Rhino Guest

    It's worth noting that he was clearly a lot slower against Ruiz than his other HW fights.

    He was tagged with a lot of jabs.....
     
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