Ward the Froch is going on?

100 percent on point. this man knows the deal.

 

I don't want to blame Kessler like I do in other threads because idiots like that above open their incompetent liar mouths(he knows who I'm talking about). But what I think is that Kessler knows how many fights he has left in him. He probably wants to fight Ward and beat him so he can say the loss was because of that and that and he was always the better fight, to redeem himself and be again the best in the division. He probably seems Froch as a more beatable opponent. He was impersonating a cave-man-like Froch after he beat him on camp 360. He want's Stieglitz belt to make the Ward fight an unification. Ward seems far more open for fighting Kessler than Bute. The only thing I don't get it is why didn't he made a counter-offer to Bute if he thought the first offer in Canada wasn't good enough. And I don't buy the 1 danish crown **** he tried to pull out there.
Pavlik a opponent less impressive than Mikkel had been offered 1.35 mil $ minus Bob Arums share that was between 300-350k. And it was 60%-40% split in favor of Kelly. So I would say Kessler got at least a decent offer that you could start a negotiation of it. But he didn't want it for whatever reason.

I don't care about what was in the past tho, Bute needs Froch and he needs him now and Interbox better get him that job or step the **** aside and let Bute sign with one of the real players out there, or co-promote Bute in a colaboration with Top Rank, GBP, or anybody more capable than Interbox.

 

He finds strange that we don't have sense of humor when he insults us and tells blatant lies like he would know it is the true but can't back them up.

... He speaks to Sauerland.. you know in his dreams that's how he knows stuff. We must believe his world. :yep

 

I agree. I highly rate Kessler but I dont think he wants to fight Bute at this time (though dont think Kessler would duck anyone) as he knows Bute is high risk and losing to him could end his chance of a Ward rematch. As you say Steiglitz would make it a unification, where Ward would be licking his lips for a unification to anyone but Bute.

Bute is in a tough situation because if he was to lose his title to anyone whether by fluke or just a bad night, I expect Ward would fight Butes victor, say Bute has lost and he beat the man who beat the man and thats Bute out

 

:good

 

OMG, really? That's what you were doing? gee thanks, now i see everything all clear. Get the **** out of here...
You 2 are the most ignorant posters on ESB, listen to this sucker, "they try to enlighten us". Who the **** made you an expert in boxing to come here and give lessons? If you dont like the fighter go somewhere else and stop wasting space (there are enough reasonable posters who can talk here), no one forces you to enter Bute threads....

 

This is what Ward said on "On the ropes": "Like I said, I believe that’s a fight that should be made and will be made,

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"There are still great fights out there. It’s hard to pick one person. I just want to be ready when we sign a contract with whomever.

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to do my thing and obviously come out on top"
You and Mr Tragic should read it, understand it and then jogg off! All right my pedigree chums?

 

Bute's trainer allready said that if he moves up in weight, he will not be able to come down to SMW, so scrach point 2...

 

Ward is the greatest isn't he?

 

Nah.That honour goes to "Big Daddy" Dece Bal.He gets into an argument with someone and there are a few who jump in to back up their hero(after Lucien of course).
My only problem with a minority of Bute fans is the nonsense last year (and I was surprised to see BB mention it tonight) about Froch ducking Bute and acting all hurt because Froch dared to trash talk Bute.
There is the element who,if you have the audacity to say anything other than Bute is the GOAT,they call you a troll.They don't have the foresight to see that there are many of us who actually rate him as a good fighter,and only question his opponents SO FAR.Plenty of time for him to fix that.
I've learned that you can actually have a very good discussion about Bute.It is a subject where you can guarantee lively, and sometimes,well informed debate.Just a shame about the minority who are too blinded with undying,sycophantic love to have a balanced and thought out debate.
You just need to look in the right places.Loyalty is in abundance but you can find lively debate as long as you can suffer occasional (and very hypocritical Drozzy,in regards to an earlier post:good) blatant and completely unreasonable nuthugging.

 

Well said BB.I used to read things on the main Bute thread about Interbox and although his fans seem very reluctant to question Interbox,reading between the lines I got the impression that I/B could end up hurting Bute in the long run.I don't believe for a minute that Bute doesn't want to get that resume beefed up and start leaving a legacy.He has that Eastern Bloc machismo and,although I'm not suggesting he takes a low purse like Hatton did,he should maybe think about budging just this once to get the fight with Froch and use it as a platform,like Ricky did with Tszyu.
In regards to the earlier comment(think it was by a keyboard gangster) about Froch having no TV backing,he is contracted to Sky,who are still the main channel for boxing in the UK (at least so far) and he's one of their top stars,so I don't know how much more TV he could have.
I don't trust the promoters of fighters I support,it really isn't that much of a stretch to believe Interbox could be bullshitting.

 

I'm making my posts from irrefutable evidence, unlike these nut huggers who all believes that their heroes are here to save boxing :rofl..

 

Long live those filled with blinded, undying,sycophantic love.

 

I don't tell lies. I tell the truth. You just can't handle it.

 

Many fanboys can't handle seing their heroes get criticised :yep