If Froch gives up his mandatory position for Bute is A COWARD! cowar

HUGE money. :rofl:rofl:rofl

 

Surprised at you Chitown.:-(
How much did he offer Froch (Irrefutable facts only please) and when did it happen?How much did Froch demand in a counter-offer(if one was made) and what was the official reason for the fight not taking place?
I'm looking for unbiased and/or neutral sources here please.

 

You do realise there is a long list of reasons why a fight doesn't get made right?(cut n paste)

 

Post your questions, and I'll see what I can come up with.

 

page 4 6th post and 9th post. it sums it up in a way

 

you are forgetting the PPV in Canada; i believe Interbox would settle for less money then Froch if they get Canada. i also believe Showtime is pushing hard for Bute-Dirrell maybe even "promising" Hearn future ignorance from US TV if he does make the fight.

 

Boxing is a business, fighters have familys to support and lifestyles to maintain so money is always the largest part of any negotiation. Venue has a few purposes, it ties directly into the money side of things as obviously the larger the venue the more money will be generated through ticket sales. Also having the fight in a venue of your choosing (most likely at home) will result in you feeling more comftorble and feeling that you have some sort of psycological edge over your opponent. (Mentality is a major part of Boxing) there's also always going to be a fear of a robbery taking place when you fight in another guys hometown, so I don't blame either guy for this.

Froch bad mouthing Bute was very smart on his end, if he'd of beaten Ward then he'd be gearing up for a Megafight with Bute, and since he lost to Ward, he had talked himself into a position where he was Bute's first choice if a Ward fight did not come off. This is a sound financial move by Froch as no other fight (to the best of my knowlege) will bring him the same amount of money as a Bute matchup.

I understand what you're saying, that it shouldn't be about money but at the end of the day Boxing is these guys job, they have to make sure that the circumstances are right for them to risk their health for.

I don't feel either guy is ducking the other, Froch needs this fight to re-establish himself as the second best SMW in the world, and Bute needs this fight to make his claim to be the very best.

 

OK.I'll give it a go...
This is only my take on this because I've heard very little from the Froch camp but plenty from people quoting I/B.
I suspect the answer is very simple.Bute will be looking for a big chunk of the purse because he holds the belt and is travelling.Froch probably feels,that at this stage of his career,he is the main attraction as outside of both sets of fans,it looks like Bute needs Froch more than vice versa.Bute is perfectly entitled to feel he is due a similar percentage to the ones he recieves in Montreal,while Froch probably wants more than is being offered because he's fighting for his pension and won't be around for a long time.I fully expecta lengthy stand off and I'd have no problems with Froch having a less taxing fight beforehand.
Simple as that.
I'm not sure where you're coming from.Do you believe that Bute has made him a perfect offer and therefore he is a coward because so far,we have no fight?
I'm not here to debate how good Bute is or isn't.My problem is people jumping on horrendously shitty threads and taking nonsense as Gospel.
Interbox know they have a lot of loyal fans who are demanding they crank up the opposition level.Of course they're gonna tell you what you want to hear.
It just doesn't make it so.

 

http://www.cyberpresse.ca/sports/boxe/201202/24/01-4499293-et-si-bute-affrontait-ward.php

(yea, in French)


«Ils n'ont pas fermé la porte. Ward se cherche un adversaire», a expliqué le président d'InterBox. Ward avait déjà fait savoir qu'il ne tenait pas à affronter Bute, mais les choses auraient changé.

"They haven't closed the door shut. Ward is looking for an opponent."
Ward has declared he wasn't keen on facing Bute, but things could have changed in the meantime.



Jean Bédard a d'ailleurs démenti la rumeur selon laquelle InterBox s'apprête à déposer une poursuite contre le réseau américain.

«On n'est pas sur la même longueur d'onde, mais c'est quelque chose qui peut se régler. Des mises en demeure, des ci, pis des ça, il peut se dire n'importe quoi, mais ce n'est pas le cas, a tranché le promoteur. D'ailleurs, je rencontre encore Showtime lundi.»


Bedard denied the rumor which says there is a lawsuit on the go with Showtime.
"We're not on the same page, but it can be resolved. Lawsuits here and there, people can say what they want, it's not the case. In fact, I'm meeting with Showtime yet again on Monday.

 

tks for the calm explanation u gave me... i do agree its about money (even doe pride and glory has taken a back seat to it) i know its about pr. hyping a fight so as to grow interest in the match up i've learned to understand this aspect of boxing, the problem i have is when after all that PR, why back out, does that not show some sort of fear of losing? thats what im trying to rap my head around.

 

I already said that a lawsuit made zero sense.

Bedard meeting with Showtime MIGHT indicate some movement on the Froch issue. Let's hope so.

 

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I might add that a Ward fight could also be discussed as Bedard indicates. I think it was Wards plan to face Kessler next, but there's rumours going that Kessler's broken finger is in bad shape leaving him out indefinetely.

 

the only coward this division has is Andre Ward.That dude doesn't own a passport but he needs a "welcome home fight" with [insert cab driver].welcome home from where?from Carlson,California?that's like 20 minutes drive from Oakland,he was home all along.

 

You're welcome buddy.

The way Boxing is right now, and has been for a long time is that every loss effects your marketability and future earnings. If Froch loses then he's 35 and lost two fights in a row, where is there for him to go next?

If Bute loses then his 0 is gone and so is a very well paying fight with Andre Ward. So both fighters have a certain fear of losing I'm certain (As should every fighter)

I don't think Bute is afraid of Froch, and there's no way that Froch is afraid of Bute, but both guys as I said have a duty to make sure that the circumstances are right for them.

As for the PR, Boxers are human beings, their emotions and egos can get the better of them and they'll say much more than they need too, it's just human nature, the business side of it comes first though so if the deal is not right, guys will walk away.