Put your own bias aside and look at a potential Ward-Bute fight...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by drozzy, Feb 24, 2012.


  1. chitownfightfan

    chitownfightfan Loyal Member Full Member

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    Your'e right. I was clearly trolling. But only to appear as an honest opinion in defense of anteBute trolls on Droz's thread.
    Ward would be more than competitive with his movement, but too much movement could turn into running if he's tagged. That would lose him rounds in neutral territory.
    In all honesty, I would still predict a Bute win, but if it went to the cards, it'd be 8/4 7/5 because as I said, Ward's movement can sometimes turn to running when he's caught.
    But all in all, Ward aint a coward, and as a smart fighter, he'd know after the first couple that he can't beat Bute from the outside, and he'd be forced to outwork him inside. And most NEUTRAL fightfans know that Bute's body work and his vicious uppercuts could land inside, and Ward has proven that he doesn't exactly have an iron chin. His body's tough as nails, but has he ever taken such a shot so perfectly places as a Bute UC to the liver?:think

    I'd officially predict...Bute KO8. 10 Count.:thumbsup
     
  2. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I hope you're taking into account my earlier prediction(post) about the fight taking place after they have both fought Froch(again in Ward's case)
    The SMW decision is going to be shaken to the core...:good
     
  3. drozzy

    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    Quality post. Thanks for chipping in.

    Do you recall if Miranda had ever gone down on a body shot prior to his fight vs Bute? I honestly can't remember.
     
  4. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    Miranda got KO'd by an uppercut to the chin. Remember Larouche saying it was like an orgasm for a boxer? :lol:
     
  5. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    I think many people overate Ward, thinking he would be the only fast guy in the ring. Thinking he would be the only one able to adapt. Thinking he would be the only accurate fighter. That is not the case. Bute's speed is pretty much on par compared to Ward. I even think that Bute would be faster at the end of the fight. Bute is a very big SMW and he became a strong one too. No way Ward will outmuscle him. Bute is a very clever fighter. He doesn't move a lot, because he stays in the pocket, not because he's not fast. Bute is also preparing himself for Ward for one year and a half. That will show if they face eachother. I don't see Ward win. He doesn't have the power to keep Bute far from him, except if he plays dirty.

    I don't agree with the fact that Ward is SO versatile. He fought pretty much the same way in all his last fights. Being faster than Froch doesn't impress me. Speed is not Carl's biggest asset. Ward's tactics won't work because he won't have a big speed advantage like he usually does.i can see some fighting habits in Ward, and Larouche will be able to exploit them. Bute by decision after having hurt Ward badly a couple of times. That's how I see it. Bute may have not faced any body like Ward, but the contrary is also true.
     
  6. drozzy

    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    Thanks Laffie. My bad - wishful thinking I guess, re: the way Zuniga went down.

    I also think Bute's head movement is severely underrated on this board. Can't remember who, but in his recent fights one of his opponents (and it wasn't Mendy) said he was "very hard to find and hit cleanly", might have been Magee.

    I'd be willing to bet money on the fact Larouche has been thinking about the way to time Ward's attacks to launch counter lefts, for over a year now -- if Bute implements his gameplan and wins, it would "like an orgasm for a trainer" haha.

    The wildcard in my head in terms of damage to Bute is if Ward trains to charge in avoiding Bute's left hand, with the aim of fighting exclusively in the pocket. Unlike you, I think Ward would give a pretty hard time to Bute in-fighting especially with a ref like Smoger.

    :bbb
     
  7. laffie

    laffie Montreal Full Member

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    Ward is the better inside fighter (when holding), don't get me wrong but Bute is strong enough to avoid severe damage. Some people think Ward could be able to do what he did to Allan Green. No way.
     
  8. john doe

    john doe Well-Known Member Full Member

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    id like to see ward go 12 rounds with andrade...reason being is he has an iron chin and just keeps comming at you...

    i think it would be a good fight and ward would have trouble getting his dirty tactics off...



    as for ward-bute.....i see bute tai=king it in the later 9-10 round, i think he is just too slick for ward, and hits harder than you would think, he is above average height for the division as well, i find he has a much faster speed than ward...

    i see ward either loosing to ref stoppage, or ko by either body shots or upper cut in the 9-10 rounds...
     
  9. vnyc

    vnyc Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    if fight takes place on neutral ground ,no wrestling and headbutts are allowed ,then there is a good chance ward gets dropped by a body punch or an uppercut and then Bute takes it by close UD or KO.
     
  10. florin3k3

    florin3k3 Member Full Member

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    i think a big role will be played by how the judges score the close rounds. i predict that most rounds will be VERY close and VERY hard to judge, especially the first 3-4 rounds. from what i've seen in bute's fights, he is pretty cautious the first few arounds and doesn't throw many punches unless pressed (ex. andrade). i don't think ward will pressure him in the first few rounds as both will try to study cautiously looking for weaknesses or opportunities. this means that, depending on the judge, the score of the first 4 rounds could be 4-0 bute, 2-2, 0-4, etc. and would factor in immensely if it goes for the whole 12 rounds.
    i noticed that a draw hasn't been really considered by anyone. it could very well happen. i don't see anyone dominating this fight. i see the first 3-4 rounds as being very even and then each fighter edging ahead 1-2 rounds only to be caught up again...
     
  11. remi

    remi Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Bute fans please don't be mad, but Bute has no chance against Ward. Bute is a c-level fighter from Montreal!!!
     
  12. Cael

    Cael Claudia Cardinale Full Member

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    :good..Ward a G, those eurotrash white boys should **** off back being waterboys and towel carrier for the superior black athlete.
     
  13. vnyc

    vnyc Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    be honest and tell them white people can't fight.
     
  14. Cael

    Cael Claudia Cardinale Full Member

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    white ppl. can't fight and they're ***** as ****.
    No wonder the female cracka goes for the superior and larger BBC.
     
  15. Palpatine

    Palpatine Guest

    agreed,blacks are superior athletes but they severly lack the intelect.So that's why most of them are janitors and cab drivers.There's no shame if you carrie the towel of a great athlete,being him white or black,but i find it very offensive to clean the **** out of toilets after some random white guy.got that,boy?now,go back to mcdonalds cause a 300Lb white fatso just took a huge dump!