The convention in the early 20th century was that jabs were not acknowledged on the score card. A fighter could use the jab to further his agenda, but he would not get any points for it. Points were only awarded for punches that were seen as "damage scoreing punches", such as hooks and crosses. So two questions: 1. What effect did this have on the fight game? 2. What effect would it have today?
My interpretation of that quote is basically how fans score fights today right? Pitter patter doesn't count and can be negated by a solid counter shot.
I find it's difficult for a fighter to "come back" on my scorecards with jabs alone after he's been hurt even if it's just with one punch.
mcgrain, how pro boxing actually gets scored is a bit of a mystry to me (obviously i know the rules but it dont fit with too many real life examples), are you saying that if a guy has been hurt and lost the round big, in the next round it would count against the score even if it was even fight again, because one is hurt (say other guy tired or low workrate or whatever)
I think of alexander v kotelnik. Devon threw hundreds of punches and the vast majority bar jabs were blocked. Andrei on the other hand was landing solid counter shots back at alexander.
No, i'm saying if a guy gets hit hard with a left hook in the first ten seconds of round 1 and is stunned but lands 30 jabs in the round whilst the other fighter lands 0 punches, I still feel odd about scoring the round to the guy landing all the jabs.
which is the tough part about comparing scorecards. i totally see what lufcrazy is saying above but i scored the fight for alexander and felt he simply landed more. having said that, i can very much see why he would lose though based on criteria one round i had trouble with was the 6th or 7th round of gatti/ward 3. ward is one of my all time favourites but he was getting beating up by gatti until he scored a flash knockdown. i have a lot of trouble scoring it a 10-8 round for ward or even 10-9 based on the previous 2 minutes and 50 seconds of the round
I always get the impression that jabs were kind of scored as ring generalship, if fighter A jabs fighter B 25 times in a round and lands 5 big punches, it trumps fighter B and then 10 big punches he landed.
I'm not so sure this is true. If so then Mike McTigue would have never won a single fight, let alone the light-heavyweight championship of the world.
I don't think that that is true at all. Jem Driscoll and jim Corbett were known for their 'straight lefts'...Maybe the confusion is in that statement. The 'jab" has become, over the years, a flicking thing thrown from afar and landed at the very end of the punch. Watch Tunney and some of those guys; they used 'straight left hands' that involved a slight turn of the shoulder, landing the punch with the arm partially extended and following through, and pushing off the rear foot (while not shifting the weight to the front foot).