Ward the Froch is going on?

I believe my mathematics are pretty straightforward.

It's difficult to relate to Bute's alleged purses for other opponents without knowing whether the amounts mentioned are net or gross. Same goes for the 1M USD offer for Froch which I suspect is gross.

Now if Bute's purses are gross I think we can all agree that he has been grossly (pardon the pun) underpaid and his promotor has cashed in bigtime. If the purses are net (meaning after deductions for manager, trainer etc. which normally is estimated at a 50% cut), we have a completely new ballgame. I think you can see that.

So Bute's purses; are they net or gross?

 

Barking up the wrong tree, I am. Sorry.

 

There's still hope of the fight getting made. Froch should counter Bute's offer of 1M for a fight in Nottingham. I can pretty much guarantee that he wouldn't take it since he can make more by continuing to feast on Quebec cabbies.

 

A very good interpretation Ramon.Makes a lot of sense.
Just keep in mind that's all it is at the moment.An interpretation based on personal opinion.

 

:good

Remember what I said from the very beginning when the next cab driver is announced.

 

I'm highly impressed by your posting. Soooo informative. Why don't you go to the boxrec forum? That would raise the average IQ both here and there.

 

I am still hopefull for a Froch fight. I'd sure like to see it. If it for some reason fails to materialize, Interbox is facing a public relations disaster everywhere in the industry. Except in Canada of course.

 

They are whatever Interbox want the fans to believe they are.
Who knew that Bute had the first promotional team in the history of Boxing to be the absolute definition of honest and integrity?:think
They truly are blessed.:hail

 

Sauerland would be proud. :deal

 

There is a reason to why Bute and his promoter always have those big smiles painted in their faces. To be honest, I dont fallow whats beeing reported or read the posts here in ESB. Their smiles tell me everything I need to know about their game.

 

they are gross; all official purses are gross.
1 mill $ for Froch to travel to Canada is a good offer beacause Showtime wasn't involved; if Interbox brings Showtime i think it will double.
Ramon is right, if they go to pursebid Hearn and Froch lose badly both in location and purse.
Unfortunatly i think Hearn is reluctant now after he got that offer and got him thinking how much money would he haave to pay the champion to come to England if they were offered 1mil without Showtime to come to Canada; maybe Interbox should've waited Hearn to make the first offer.
It shows how desperate are Interbox

 

I think they're gross but can't tell for sure.

 

You are a ****in liar, you're not tired, in fact you are on of the biggest contributors to Bute threads.

You love him, just admit it.

 

i tend to trust people until proven wrong (not blindly but carefuly) most promoter have bin cauth in a lie... im not trying to say ibox is almighty and just. but unless you can show me a moment where they got caught in a lie, i would like to know about it. im not a nutthugger, i know bute must travel, and face big names. and i also know money is the name of the game. what can i say... i trust the guy (bute) does not seam to have a mean bone in his body, he is humble, and still looks like a kid who just got his first medal after a victory.

P.s. the guy can also kick some serious ass:bbb

 

Yes. You claimed that we don't know the other offer's details. That is of course correct.

You don't need to say anything. Just look the title of the other thread: Bute I made(Froch) an offer of 1mil$ he refused(Can) now I'm wa[ i ]ting for an offer(Eng) This is the information provided by Bute concerning Froch negotiation status. Nothing else. Skip the "waiting" part which bears little clue information of interest here, label as obvious reality the words "he [Froch] refused" and you're left only with the $ 1M offer part which could eventually perceived as debatable. I assume you already were aware of that when joining this thread.

As a general principle I couldn't agree more.

My point is: you made this generic statement on a thread where the only debatable relevant information (i.e. which might be potentially different) is the $ 1M part. The information is factual: if you don't take that "as gospel" it means implicitly you deny Interbox/Bute made a $ 1M offer to Froch. In this particular case, the application of your generic statement cannot logically mean for instance "the offer contained also some unacceptable conditions" since Bute did not refer to any of these alleged conditions. Bute's statement is too simple to be relativized: it can be only true/false. WIthin this context, your above warning for some Bute fans can mean only Bute might have lied about the amount.

I see you insist on the intended generic meaning: so be it. I will accept that your warning was not specifically related to the $ 1M part and that you only wanted to say something about the other conditions of the offer. Now, if you agree that you were not fully aware of the context of this thread and the implicit meaning of your statement's applications, we can close this debate.

All on the contrary: I have read them in their context. Out of that, see above.