Better boxing trainer: Manny Steward or Teddy Atlas?

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  1. Joe_MacKenzie

    Joe_MacKenzie Boxing Addict banned

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    Who is the better boxing trainer, Teddy Atlas or Manny Steward?

    Did Povetkin improve with Teddy? It sure didn't look like it on Saturday. Has Teddy ever left a fighter he trained on good terms?

    Who is the more mentally stable? Would Steward take a gun and go to the apartment of a fighter he trained who fired him with murderous intent? I can't imagine Emanuel doing something like that.
     
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  2. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    Steward.
     
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  3. Bogotazo

    Bogotazo Amateur Full Member

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    Steward, no comparison.
     
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  4. pasky2000

    pasky2000 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The guy that seemingly couldn't get a fight prediction right if his life depended on it VS the guy that always says a fight went exactly like he tought it would, but only when it's over..... :lol:
     
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  5. DanishFightfan

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    Steward by far
     
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  6. Grecorussian

    Grecorussian Active Member Full Member

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    Steward of course
     
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  7. Thread Stealer

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    Atlas because he can communicate with the dead.
     
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  8. Joe_MacKenzie

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    Ask Hearns or Wlad their opinion of Steward, they'll speak well of him.

    But if you ask Briggs, Moorer, LaLonde, Grant, etc their opinion of Teddy, they'll say he's a control freak and something of a nutcase.

    http://www.boxinginsider.com/headlines/shannon-briggs-%e2%80%9cteddy-atlas-was-the-ultimate-control-freak-%e2%80%a6-he-betrayed-me%e2%80%9d/#ixzz1nhZxMLHN

    Other fighters who know Teddy speak badly of him:

     
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  9. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Teddy just comes across as a guy who needs to control you mentally for some reason. He wants fighters to be mentally in his hip pocket so he can break down a guy with his words. He wants fighters to be mentally dependent on him i guess.
     
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  10. chinachin

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    Manny just made Lennox the best heavy of all times imo, and another one top 5 Wlad.

    Speaks for itself.
     
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  11. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    His best fighter was Hearns.
     
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  12. Thread Stealer

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    Atlas's crowning moment as a trainer is really overblown anyway. Moorer didn't even listen to Atlas in the rounds after Atlas pleaded with him to fight harder. Atlas was saying the right things, then Moorer would go out and sleepwalk some more.

    Interesting how guys like Moorer and Briggs gave their most valiant efforts and fought with more passion in fights with other trainers in their corner.
     
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  13. Hook!

    Hook! Proud member of team G. Full Member

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    manny
     
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  14. SJS19

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    Steward. He's slowed down now which is a shame (nobody beats time) but he's produced brilliant talent over the years.

    Atlas is tricky to judge, I have alot of respect for his training ability and how he looks at the game, and fully understand why he doesn't train many fighters these days, from a purists view of a bygone era, the game is very different today.

    What I would like to see Atlas do, is similar to what Steward does with his school for teaching coaches how to train fighters. Cus D'Amato's secrets are probably going to die with Atlas, Mike and Rooney and that would be a huge loss that we'd never get back.

    When there's no cameras or stars or political motivations (as there was with Povetkin) I think Atlas would do very well, no cameras; no stage to be a primidonna, just impart your knowlege, show others what you know.
     
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  15. Joe_MacKenzie

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    Listen to what George Foreman says about Teddy here:

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8K8NKhoWeo[/ame]



    And listen to what Manny Steward says about Teddy "too much lecturing, not enough training":

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDNcs0bW9yw[/ame]
     
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