**** Kirks ESB Championship 2012 ****

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  1. Malden

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    Yeah, I dont like it either.
     
  2. David B

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    Raul Garcia vs. Michael Landero - Garcia UD
     
  3. kirk

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  5. Malden

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    Oh snap..
     
  6. PinoyProdigy

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    3/3 - Sammy Gutierrez vs. Omar Nino Romero has been replaced with Sammy Gutierrez vs. Carlos Ruben Dario Ruiz 12x3 (IBF Flyweight Title Eliminator)
    3/3 - Moises Fuentes vs. Michael Landero has been replaced by Raul Garcia vs. Michael Landero 10x3
    3/10 - Lukas Konecny vs. Zaurbek Baysangurov has been taken off due to cancellation due to injury.
     
  7. Samurai's Slice

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    THE LISTS:

    MY HEAVYWEIGHT TOP 10:

    1. Wladimir Klitschko
    2. Vitali Klitschko
    3. Tomasz Adamek
    4. Dereck Chisora
    5. Alexander Povetkin
    6. Marco Huck
    7. Robert Helenius
    8. Eddie Chambers
    9. Chris Arreola
    10. Ruslan Chageav

    Dimitrenko, Pulev, Solis, Thompson could all be there but it's tough.

    Tackleberry:

    1. Wladimir Klitschko
    2. Vitali Klitschko
    3. Alexander Povetkin
    4. Dereck Chisora
    5. Tomasz Adamek
    6. Tyson Fury
    7. Robert Helenius
    8. Marco Huck
    9. Alexander Dimitrenko
    10. Chris Arreola

    David B:

    1. Wladimir Klitschko
    2. Vitali Klitschko
    3. David Haye
    4. Dereck Chisora
    5. Marco Huck
    6.Tomasz Adamek
    7. Alexander Povetkin
    8. Tyson Fury
    9. Robert Helenius
    10. Eddie Chambers

    Chatty:


    1. Wladimir Klitschko - no need to explain
    2. Vitali Klitschko - no need to explain
    3. Alexander Povetkin - next best although poor showing at weekend
    4. Tomasz Adamek - disappeared since being destroyed of Vitali, no shame there and earlier work keeps him high on the list (for now)
    5. Dereck Chisora - beating Helenius and a decent showing against Vitali skyrockets him, he may suffer though due to his pre-fight antcis
    6. Robert Helenius - Lost to Chisora in most peoples eyes but has done enough to warrant a no6 ranking in a poor division
    7. Eddie Chambers - suffers due to inactivity, needs to be in there with more contenders
    8. Marco Huck - decent first fight, cant rank him any higher though as he has zero wins at the weight
    9. Chris Arreola - fat
    10. Tyson Fury - Chisora win looks better now but seems to be pissing about fighting no marks and oaps at the minute

    Kirk:

    1 - Wladimir Klitschko
    2 - Vitali Klitschko
    3 - Alexander Povetkin (I dont want to rate him here, but wins over a good chambers, a faded chagaev, and a 'win' over Huck, with nobody else having done quite that much, he gets there by default, despite me thinking he would lose to plenty of the fighters ranked below him)
    4 - Dereck Chisora (I have him here for beating helenius, giving Vitali fits, and that I think he would beat most of the people below him head to head)
    5 - Eddie Chambers (Hes beat peter and dimitrenko, and I think he would give anyone trouble outside of the klits head to head)
    6 - Robert Helenius ( wins over a faded Brewster n Peter keep him at 6 )
    7 - Marco Huck (he arguably beat povetkin arccording to many, and with povetkin being number 3, it gives Huck a good position to start off his heavyweight campaign)
    8 - Tyson Fury (I dont want to rate him here, but he has beaten my number 4 guy, even if he was woefully out of shape for the fight (chisora was by far and away his highest weight, while fury was in his best shape) He beats out Adamek because.... A: I think he beats adamek head to head due to his size and B: His best win at heavy is better imo, then adameks. And adamek has no other heavyweight win to really compensate for that. imo.
    9 - Tomasz Adamek ( his lone real notable win is arreola, one who's not in my top 10. I believe that besides huck, up till this point in the rankings adamekis the only one without a win against a top 10 guy (my rankings) so with that, how badly I feel he does against 90% of his peers head to head, and how badly he was disposed of when he fought the best, I can rank him no higher at the moment. )

    and I really dont know who I should put at 10.... its a complete toss up for me, Im going to go with

    10 - Denis Boytsov.... just for being impressive inside the ring so far despite his comp, and how I think he would do head to head against most of the guys on this list.

    PinoyProdigy's Heavyweight Rankings:

    1. Wladimir Klitschko
    2. Vitali Klitschko
    3. Alexander Povetkin
    4. Dereck Chisora
    5. Robert Helenius
    6. Tyson Fury
    7. Tomasz Adamek
    8. Alexander Dimitrenko
    9. Chris Arreola
    10. Marco Huck

    Malden:

    1. Wladimir Klitschko
    2. Vitali Klitschko
    3. Alexander Povetkin
    4. Dereck Chisora
    5. Eddie Chambers
    6. Robert Helenius
    7. Tyson Fury
    8. Tomasz Adamek
    9. Marco Huck
    10. Denis Boytsov

    LufCrazy:

    1. Wladimir Klitschko
    2. Vitali Klitschko
    3. Alexander Povetkin
    4. Tomasz Adamek
    5. Ruslan Chagaev
    6. Eddie Chambers
    7. Chris Arreola
    8. Alexander Dimitrenko
    9. Tyson Fury
    10. Tony Thompson

    Demolition Dan:

    1. Wladimir Klitschko- Obviously.

    2. Vitali Klitschko- Obviously.

    3. Alexander Povetkin- He legitimately won last week. It was close, I had it 115-113 Huck, but it was a close fight. Could have gone either way. So, he's still undefeated and in at number 3.

    4. Tomasz Adamek- Adamek's only loss at Heavyweight is to Vitali Klitschko, number 2 in my rankings, and 6 wins. Being active is the key. He takes the number 4 spot.

    5. Chris Arreola- Arreola is below Adamek do to head to head. Much like Adamek, he is just active. Arreola has a couple of nice wins since the Adamek loss, but he just keeps fighting and that's why he gets a spot at number 5.

    6. Tyson Fury- Staying active, staying undefeated and beating Chisora gets him at number 6.

    7. Dereck Chisora- There's a reason why I favored Chisora to beat Fury...until the weigh in. Chisora is a good fighter. He just showed up fat and cost himself a win. He then bounced back with a dominating win over Helenius and put up a good fight against Vitali.

    8. David Price- Young, prospect, David Price. He's a tall and talented fighter. If you were to ask me who will be the next Heavyweight champion after the Klitschko's, David Price would be the first name to up. He's got a great jab, great right hand, in shape, good speed. He's a very good prospect.

    9. Mike Perez- Like Price, only a small little bulldog. Very explosive fighter from Cuba. He's a pretty damn good prospect as well. The future after the Klitschko's looks pretty bright in the Heavyweight division.

    10. Seth Mitchell- I'm not quite sold on Mitchell, yet. I just have to put someone at 10, but he's a good prospect as well. We'll see where he really stands though when he goes up against a good contender. He's obviously very powerful, good speed, but I can already tell he'll be busted up with anybody with a good jab. He's got very leaky D, he needs to shore that up.


    JDR:

    1.Wladimir Klitschko
    2.Vitali Klitschko
    3.Alexander Povetkin
    4.Robert Helenius
    5.Dereck Chisora
    6.Eddie Chambers
    7.Marco Huck
    8.Tomasz Adamek
    9.Chris Arreola
    10.Alexander Dimitrenko

    OneTrueYiddle:

    1.Wladimir Klitschko
    2.Vitali Klitschko
    3.Alexander Povetkin
    4.David Haye
    5.Eddie Chambers
    6.Robert Helenius
    7.Dereck Chisora
    8.Marco Huck
    9.Tomasz Adamek
    10.Alexander Dimitrenko

    Bezz:

    1.Wladimir Klitschko
    2.Vitali Klitschko
    3.Alexander Povetkin
    4.David Haye
    5.David Price
    6.Robert Helenius
    7.Dereck Chisora
    8.Eddie Chambers
    9.Tomasz Adamek
    10.Marco Huck



    Official List ( Based off current kirkster lists ): TBD


    NEW FEATURE:
    KIRK'S ESB CHAMPIONSHIPS PRESENTS:
    THE OFFICIAL KIRK'S ESB CHAMPIONSHIPS DIVISIONAL RANKINGS!



    View the last few posts for more details but I will be running a new KIRK APPROVED feature called the Official Kirk's ESB championships divisional rankings where the kirksters and post their TOP 10 rankings for each of the divisions in boxing, We will only do one division at a time until we have the first rankings made, Then we will update them monthly, I'll go into that later but for now you guys gotta submit your rankings for our first division, Heavyweight, And after a week or 2 I will round them up and make one listed based on all of ours. So each vote counts!


    POST YOUR TOP 10 at Heavyweight now!


    :bumpBump...

    Wait a minute, WTF is this? Where's the Valuev bump?? :twisted::|
     
  8. DemolitionDan

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    All right, I'm on my computer now. All right, another suggestion. While I was daydreaming I was thinking what if the site crashed and all my breakdown's vanished (I was thinking about myself at the time. :lol: ) I don't have a backup or anything like that. That's when I thought about this thread and there's a lot that would go missing if there was some big huge crash. So, then I thought, a lot of people have website, blog type things. So, then I thought...well, I just said that...:lol: all right then I thought what if someone put this thread on a website or blog or something. All this stuff we got on here. That way we got a little website, got backup and what not.
     
  9. PinoyProdigy

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    3/2 – Pongsaklek Wonjongkam vs. Sonny Boy Jaro – 12x3 WBC Flyweight Title
    3/2 – Joan Guzman vs. Jesus Pabon – 10x3 (ESPN 2 FNF)
    3/3 – Thomas Oosthuizen vs. Serge Yannick – 12x3 IBO Super Middleweight Title
    3/3 – Kaizer Mabuza vs. Steven Wills – 12x3 IBO Light Welterweight Title
    3/3 – Wladimir Klitschko vs. Jean-Marc Mormeck – 12x3 WBA, IBF, WBO, IBO Heavyweight Titles
    3/3 - Ola Afolabi vs. Valery Brudov - 12x3 Interim WBO Cruserweight Title
    3/3 – Fernando Montiel vs. Angky Angkota – 12x3 WBC International Silver Super Bantamweight Title (Televisa)
    3/3 - Sammy Gutierrez vs. Carlos Ruben Dario Ruiz - 12x3 IBF Flyweight Title Eliminator (Televisa)
    3/3 - Raul Garcia vs. Michael Landero - 10x3 (Azteca)
    3/3 – Vicente Escobedo vs. Lonnie Smith – 10x3 (TeleFutura)
    3/7 – Daniel Geale vs. Osumanu Adama – 12x3 IBF Middleweight Title (Main Event)
    3/7 – Billy Dib vs. Eduardo Escobedo – 12x3 IBF Featherweight Title (Main Event)
    3/7 – Kali Meehan vs. Travis Walker – 12x3 IBF Pan Pacific Heavyweight Title (Main Event)
    3/9 – Kiko Martinez vs. Arsen Martirosyan – 12x3 EBU Super Bantamweight Title (Ma Chaine Sport)
    3/10 - Ricky Burns vs. Paulus Moses - 12x3 Interim WBO Lightweight Title
    3/10 – Orlando Salido vs. Juan Manuel Lopez – 12x3 WBO Featherweight Title (Showtime)
    3/10 – Miguel Angel Garcia vs. Bernabe Concepcion – 12x3 NABF & WBO NABO Featherweight Titles (Showtime)
    3/12 – Masayuki Kuroda vs. Ryoichi Taguchi – 10x3 Japanese Light Flyweight Title
    3/16 – George Groves vs. Kenny Anderson – 12x3 BBBofC British Super Middleweight Title
    3/16 – Kendall Holt vs. Tim Coleman – 10x3 (ESPN 2 FNF)
    3/17 - Kell Brook vs. Matthew Hatton - 12x3 WBA Inter-Continental & IBF International Welterweight Titles
    3/17 – Giacobbe Fragomeni vs. Silvio Branco – 12x3 WBC Silver Cruserweight Title
    3/17 – Antonio DeMarco vs. Miguel Roman – 12x3 WBC Lightweight Title (Televisa)
    3/17 - Roman Gonzalez vs. Ramon Garcia Hirales - 12x3 WBA Light Flyweight Title (Azteca)
    3/17 – Sergio Gabriel Martinez vs. Matthew Macklin – 12x3 (HBO)
    3/17 – Edwin Rodriguez vs. Don George – 10x3 (HBO)
    3/18 – Alex Leapai vs. Kevin Johnson – 12x3 IBF Australasian Heavyweight Title
    3/18 – Yukinori Oguni vs. Hiromasa Ohashi – 12x3 OPBF Super Bantamweight Title
    3/23 - Roberto Garcia vs. Antwone Smith - 10x3 (ESPN 2 FNF)
    3/23 – Diego Magdaleno vs. Miguel Beltran Jr. – 10x3 NABF Super Featherweight Title (Showtime)
    3/23 – Leonard Bundu vs. Gianluca Branco – 12x3 EBU Welterweight Title
    3/24 – Nkosinathi Joyi vs. Katsunari Takayama – 12x3 IBF Minimumweight Title
    3/24 – Takalani Ndlovu vs. Jeffrey Mathebula – 12x3 IBF Super Bantamweight Title
    3/24 - Ryan Rhodes vs. Sergey Rabchenko - 12x3 EBU Light Middleweight Title
    3/24 – Jan Zaveck vs. Bethuel Uushona – 12x3 WBO Inter-Continental Welterweight Title
    3/24 – Mariusz Wach vs. Tye Fields – 12x3 WBC International Heavyweight Title
    3/24 – Hernan Marquez vs. Rodel Mayol – 12x3 WBA Flyweight Title
    3/24 – Zab Judah vs. Vernon Paris – 12x3 (NBC)
    3/24 – Siarhei Liakhovich vs. Bryant Jennings – 10x3 (NBC)
    3/24 – Erik Morales vs. Danny Garcia – 12x3 WBC Light Welterweight Title (HBO)
    3/24 – Carlos Molina vs. James Kirkland – 12x3 (HBO)
    3/27 – Suriyan Sor Rungvisai vs. Yota Sato – 12x3 WBC Super Flyweight Title
    3/30 - Manuel Charr vs. Taras Bydenko - 12x3 WBC International Silver Heavyweight Title
    3/30 – Henry Lundy vs. Dannie Williams – 10x3 NABF Lightweight Title (ESPN 2 FNF)
    3/30 – Elvin Ayala vs. Hector Camacho Jr. – 10x3 WBC USNBC Middleweight Title (ESPN 2 FNF)
    3/31 – Arthur Abraham vs. Piotr Wilczewski – 12x3 WBO European Super Middleweight Title
    3/31 – Kubrat Pulev vs. Alexander Dimitrenko – 12x3 EBU Heavyweight Title
    3/31 - Omar Andres Narvaez vs. Jose Cabrera - 12x3 WBO Super Flyweight Title (TyC Sports)
    3/31 - Jose Alfredo Rodriguez vs. Alberto Rossel - 12x3 Interim WBA Light Flyweight Title
    3/31 - Jorge Linares vs. Sergio Thompson - 10x3

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  10. PinoyProdigy

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    3/3 - Sammy Gutierrez vs. Omar Nino Romero has been replaced with Sammy Gutierrez vs. Carlos Ruben Dario Ruiz 12x3 (IBF Flyweight Title Eliminator)
    3/3 - Moises Fuentes vs. Michael Landero has been replaced by Raul Garcia vs. Michael Landero 10x3
    3/10 - Lukas Konecny vs. Zaurbek Baysangurov has been taken off due to cancellation due to injury.
    3/17 - Roman Gonzalez vs. Raul Garcia has been replaced by Roman Gonzalez vs. Ramon Garcia Hirales 12x3


    Lots of changes on the original schedule lately.
     
  11. DemolitionDan

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    1. Wladimir Klitschko- Obviously.

    2. Vitali Klitschko- Obviously.

    3. Alexander Povetkin- He legitimately won last week. It was close, I had it 115-113 Huck, but it was a close fight. Could have gone either way. So, he's still undefeated and in at number 3.

    4. Tomasz Adamek- Adamek's only loss at Heavyweight is to Vitali Klitschko, number 2 in my rankings, and 6 wins. Being active is the key. He takes the number 4 spot.

    5. Chris Arreola- Arreola is below Adamek do to head to head. Much like Adamek, he is just active. Arreola has a couple of nice wins since the Adamek loss, but he just keeps fighting and that's why he gets a spot at number 5.

    6. Tyson Fury- Staying active, staying undefeated and beating Chisora gets him at number 6.

    7. Dereck Chisora- There's a reason why I favored Chisora to beat Fury...until the weigh in. Chisora is a good fighter. He just showed up fat and cost himself a win. He then bounced back with a dominating win over Helenius and put up a good fight against Vitali.

    8. David Price- Young, prospect, David Price. He's a tall and talented fighter. If you were to ask me who will be the next Heavyweight champion after the Klitschko's, David Price would be the first name to up. He's got a great jab, great right hand, in shape, good speed. He's a very good prospect.

    9. Mike Perez- Like Price, only a small little bulldog. Very explosive fighter from Cuba. He's a pretty damn good prospect as well. The future after the Klitschko's looks pretty bright in the Heavyweight division.

    10. Seth Mitchell- I'm not quite sold on Mitchell, yet. I just have to put someone at 10, but he's a good prospect as well. We'll see where he really stands though when he goes up against a good contender. He's obviously very powerful, good speed, but I can already tell he'll be busted up with anybody with a good jab. He's got very leaky D, he needs to shore that up.

    Notable omissions: Chambers- Hasn't fought for over a year. Can't rank him. Thompson- Almost a year, may as well not rank him. Solis- Almost a year, may as well not rank him. Helenius- Never been a big fan of Helenius. Not much skill, just a lot of power. Plus he lost his last fight out pretty badly to Chisora. He's on the outside looking in. Huck- Almost did, since he almost did beat Povetkin, but I rate him just outside the top 10, for now. Boytsov- Almost did, but I feel the other prospects are better than Boytsov. Pulev- He's right there as well, just not there yet. Dimitrenko- Well, he's just horrible. :lol:
     
  12. kirk

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    :good

    Been thinking of this for awhile, Ive even gone to the lengths of wanting to create my own little sub forum (done with the same software that esb is done with) on my own website to kinda use has a secondary location.

    As for your breakdowns, I will be going through (or if you wanted to, it would probably be faster lol, but either way) and redoing your past ones as pictures, the way I posted those last two or three, and those I have on my computer, so if there was ever a site crash on here, all your breakdowns will be on my computer

    But ya, the best thing is to simply have a secondary location for all league stuff and whatnot.

    Good ideas Dan
     
  13. kirk

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    :lol: Their faces :lol:
     
  14. kirk

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    Heading to the gym, when I get back, updates will be finalised then posted.