Froch is solid, hits hard and has an excellent chin, but the word elite gets to me. He was outboxed in one of his earlier fights in the super 6 but got the gift decision. He was beaten by Kessler who lost convincingly against Calzaghe. He was totally shown up against Ward by his inability to fight on the inside. If that is elite, so be it, but Bute is not picking the best fighter at smw.
Wrong, he PICKED the ONLY fighter at smw who is worth fighting right now. Ward is resting (apparently) doesn't want the fight right now, Kessler is with Stiglitz. :good:good
Froch is not an elite fighter. Such a slow man with zero technique that blocks shots with his head will never be considered "elite". Super middleweight is a two man division (Bute and Ward) and always has been since Calzaghe retired and we all know this despite the super six highlighting this wasteland of a division.
Oh but he is. It takes to to tango. Ward doesn't want Bute not even in Oakland and Kessler didn't want no part of it either.
I agree. Despite holding all of the cards (he could have easily made Froch travel to Canada), he agrees to fight on foreign soil. That's a lot harder when you have the easy option of setting things up to your advantage. Only if you're the lesser guy where you have no choice but to travel, do you resort to taking fights elsewhere. Bute's not done that. He's chosen to go to the lion's den. He's out to make a statement. Massive respects to him.
Yup. He's not elite. Only Ward can be tagged with that in the 168 division. But despite that, Bute is still picking a decent fighter in his backyard.
Afterwards it might be suitable with a "When will Ward step up to the plate like Bute?"-thread. I start polish the lines already, I think. Would be great if we can get a rivalry at SMW. Ward and Bute would do. They are both talented and slick.
yes credit to him but then again now i take my credit back because he just saw froch get his ass handed to him by ward and has gone through serious wear and tear and has slowed down and aged and now bute wants to fight him because froch is exposed and ward wrote a beautiful script on how to beat froch.
:verysad Froch was exposed for the limited fighter he is, back against Taylor and before! The Ward fight didn't tell us anything we didn't already know. It was merely a reminder to those who jumped on his bandwagon after the Abraham fight. And he hasn't gone through that much wear and tear to suggest he's completely different now to what he was when heading into the Ward fight. He wasn't put through a gruelling, damaging fight. Far from it. He was just outclassed. He even said himself that it didn't feel like he'd been in a fight. So no, you can't take your credit back . He [Bute] deserves to keep it, because if he beats Froch equally or more impressively than Ward, then most will value his win to at least be on the same level. Probably more, considering he'll be doing it in hostile territory.
Taylor exposed him hard core i agree but froch defo improved since then and he showed even with his limits he still has tools to beat top fighters and he was still dangerous and i think ward just made the danger of froch go down in stock. Froch never claims to be hurt he's got to much pride but his fights are constantly messy and i think he had been roughed up but he's still tough and still be roughed up some more. You can value the win higher if you like because of were the venue is but i take that as a small thing when considering how great the win is i like to go by what happened in the ring Styles make fights bute beating froch in a better way than ward doesn't make him better. Ward put a beating down on froch which is hard to top. If he KO'd froch he would just look strong but not more skillful than ward, no way does bute outbox froch like ward did. It's all styles- floyd beat hatton in 10 round pac did it in 2 floyd dominated marquez for 12 rounds pac drew and got a SD and got a controversial MD win over 12 rounds.
you don't even know what 'exposed' means. A fighter can be beaten and not exposed, you shouldn't talk to me till you read a dictionary.
Oh no, don't get me wrong. I'm not saying a better win over Froch will make Bute a better fighter than Ward. Far from it. Ward's my boy. Despite what Bute may do to Froch, I'll still consider Ward to be the best 168 pounder in the world. I'm just saying it [defeating Froch in Nottingham] would be a more impressive win. That's all. Yes, the location of a fight doesn't really influence the skills displayed in a ring, but it does play a huge role in bringing the best out of an opponent; thus having a direct influence on how well you're forced to deal with him. Basically, by fighting Froch in his hometown, Bute will be facing a slightly more formidable version than the one Ward faced in Atlantic City.
imo bute gets alot more credit going to fight in england rather than oakland....the fans in england are pretty crazy, especially when froch fights
i always supported bute. i knew he was the type of guy who wanted to fight in big fights but things didnt go his way. know he fed up with it sense ward didnt want to fight him yet. so now he is making sure he gets a big fight. but as long as england doesnt rob bute which i dont think anything like that will happen but bute should win this bout kinda easily. froch is tough as nails but he doesnt have the speed it go with his skills. and he needs to do sumthing about that jab of his so bute dont counter him all nite i give credit to bute always defended him
