it isnt setting the record straight or clearing the air. Its merely your opinion, of which you are entitled to have, and one that the majority on here dont share
The way you try to work your girlfiend Norris into every comparsion post, annoying ! As for great fighters, KO victims of Keith Mullings need not apply...
For the record, SRL fought with great heart, passion and intensity, BALLS. He never quit in a fight, and he dug down to the well when he needed to. A guy who ( record says so) beats Benitez,Hearns and Duran has earned himself the right to be considered one of the best.Any IDIOT who bases their comparsions on SRL post `82` is clueless. Detached retina is certanily not an excuse for retiring ! What he accomplished after returning ias admirable, but not the zenith of his career.Rooster as much as I want to vomit evrytime you try and inject Norris into great fighter conversations. Even I am smart enough to admit that Rosenblatt beating Norris has no weight as Norris was clearly on the downside of his career.As SRL was when he fought Norris. Leonard earning his stripes ? hey guys, he came back and beat Hearns after getting his eye closed. hearns (who I respect immensely) was the true KO bomber coiming into this fight, yetm who was that sagging like a wet string bean against the ropes or pinning his elbow to his side so Leonard wouldn`t take it to his body anymore ? Post fight careers trying to say Hearns wasn`t truly `prime `is nonsense. That night Hearns flattens Duran, Norris and a whole slew of greats, not Robbie however. Trying to say SRL wasn`t one of the all time greats is just nonsense...
He was a great fighter. For me he just did not have enough fights to earn a place in the top 20 all-time or whatever but there's no doubting his ability.
Yeah, and we will contunie to be pissed and it's the same reason I do not like Floyd either. Great boxers but not my cup of tea.
I can always stand a man that lets me know where he stands, even if he is wrong, then one who comes like an angel and is nothing but a devil.
Good call. I much prefer a guy like Sugar Ray Leonard who packed a lot of quality into a relatively short career (at least in terms of number of bouts) than say a Willie Pep who had an amazing record but padded it with a huge amount of filler. It shows that Ray really wanted to test himself against the best. Although later in his career that changed but when talking about prime Leonard he was the man in terms of meeting and beating dangerous opposition.
Some really good posts here, knowledgable and objective. SRL did pack a ot of work into a short (fightwise) career. So i can see the hesitation with looking at him at SRR`s level. And his persona did rub some people the wrong way. But looking at his major body of work, in his heyday hard to not give him his props. The big thing that some people miss sometimes was his fighting heart. he fough with a tremendous will to win. And while he had some flaws, in big fights he founbd a way to get it done, even when the chips were down. And no, fights against Norris and Camacho don`t count,much like Ali vs Holmes/Louis vs Marciano you get my drift...
A lot of hipster *******s in this thread. Leonard has perhaps the highest quality of wins packed into a career with little filler, ever! He's a legend. Cherry picking. Aye, consistently taking on the actual best fighter around his weightclasses is terrible cherry picking. Coming back after 4 years out to fight the Middleweight champion was terrible cherry picking too. What a ****ing fraud. Absolute ****ing mongos on this forum. "Oh he's the most famous one from the 80s. If I hate him I must be more knowledgeable". Get to ****.
Its as simple as this; Anyone who questions Leonards ability as a boxer just doesnt know what they are talking about
I don't know enough about Pep to comment on him in particular, but lots of greats from the past had quality wins as well as quantity. Maybe not superfight promotions but in pure boxing terms they were fighting loads of great fighters.