Pacquiao vs Henry Armstrong

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  1. hofbrau

    hofbrau Well-Known Member Full Member

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    what's wrong, chump
     
  2. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    FLYWEIGHT- Only carried the title for 7 months before losing it via KO.

    SUPER BANTAMWEIGHT- Picked up the title in June, should have technically lost it 5 months later in November to Agapito Sanchez...Pacquiao's first gift.

    -Saved by ref against Nedal Hussein

    -Draws with Marquez in a fight most felt Marquez won

    -Loses to a shot Morales (Morales was coming off a loss to a past prime Barrera)


    SUPER FEATHERWEIGHT- Picked up title with GIFT win against Marquez.

    LIGHTWEIGHT- Picked up title against the WEAKEST LW, who had obtained his title from a controversial win...Only one fight there.

    JR. WELTERWEIGHT- IBO belt against Hatton who had previously be KTFO and nearly KTFO by a shot Lazcano.

    WELTERWEIGHT- Fought for the title at 145...Cotto was prohibited from coming in at his best, FORCED to weigh in no more than 145...Cotto was also previously KTFO too FFS.

    JR. MIDDLEWEIGHT- Fought for the WW title at 150...against Margarito who hadn't done **** at 154...neither fighter had earned the right to fight for the title at 154, it was a big sham....Margarito previously KTFO too FFS.

    -Another GIFT win against Juan Manuel Marquez

    Oh yeah, this has Henry Arum written all over it. :yep
     
  3. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :deal:deal


    Armstrong is consensus top 3 p4p fighters that ever lived!!!! *******s are getting more ridiculous each day, He beat the legit champs (aka the man of the divison) in 3 original divsions that spanned far greater weight ranges. Pacs accomplishments don't even compare to this he has beaten the man of his divison only twice in his whole career let alone with succession in 3 weight classes spanning 21 lbs then defending all 3.
     
  4. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Like it or not teabagged, that's the way it is. Pac is top 5, PBF is gonna be middle of the pack ATG if he's even considered an ATG at all. You can squawk, cry, complain, moan and nitpick all you want but them is the facts son, and you're gonna have to learn to live with it. Especially since your man isn't at all concerned about his legacy himself. He's more worried about his health and being 'forced into fights he shouldn't take'.
     
  5. IsaL

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    Facts?? :lol:

    *******ism at it's finest. :rofl

    Facts are that he was the Flyweight Champion for only 7 months before getting KTFO.

    Facts are that most people, the vast majority felt Pacquiao lost to JMM in the 2nd and 3rd fight and many people had JMM winning the 1st.

    Fact is he has so many excuses as to why he won't fight Floyd.

    Fact is he lost to a Morales who was past his prime.

    Fact is his biggest wins are against fighters who were not in their primes anymore.

    It is my opinion that his career has been very carefully orchestrated as Max Kellerman once put it, to make him seem like a great fighter, and the FACT that his promoter is the biggest piece of **** in boxing makes my opinion very probable to be a fact.
     
  6. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Fact: Pac wants to fight Floyd, Floyd wants to keep his health by not fighting Pacquiao. A reasonable position to take. Why can't you be as honest as Floyd?
     
  7. IsaL

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  8. Imperial1

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  9. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't really even know why you guys bother bringing this up, it doesn't prove some point or change anything. Now he wants equal money. He deserves it and everybody knows it. Period. Make the fight.
     
  10. IsaL

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    He told Floyd directly or indirectly that he would take less money to make the fight happen, not last year, not 6 months ago, not 3 months ago, but barely a few ****ing weeks ago...and Floyd jumped on it and said "Let's do this"!!...

    ...and now all of a sudden Arum and Pac have a string of excuses and the only one that stuck was the 50/50 (even though he agreed to less) he says.."umm, umm, Pipty-Pipty or no pight...Well Mr. Pacquiao, just a few weeks ago you agreed to less that Pipty/Pipty, and when Floyd called you on your bluff you backed out...

    Floyd called his bluff, and Pac backed out.
     
  11. travolt

    travolt Trolling the trolls Full Member

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    There goes your credibility...
    Rewatch the fight; Sanchez couldn't handle Pacs power and speed...fought dirty to get out of the fight....a few more rounds and he was TKFO
     
  12. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No Armstrong had great defense to go along with his offense, and fought the best of his era. Pacquiao can't say either of those things about himself.
     
  13. Bee KeepZ

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    Hands down the modern day Henry Armstrong.

    It will be awhile until another Flyweight achieves what Pacquiao has done. He is similar to Duran and Armstrong.
     
  14. Royal-T-Bag

    Royal-T-Bag Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    not sure what you're talking about or why you're bringing mayweather into this, obsessed much?

    if you think Pac will be considered top 5 you're a crazy man with an unhealthy obsession..... go have a look at any top 50/100 lists done by ESPN/SI/RING etc....none of them even have pac top 30, in fact many don't even have him top 50 and almost all that I've seen have PBF ranked higher including Ring and ESPN's latest lists.:deal

    you're talking complete nonsense and floyd has nothing to do with a Pac vs Henry Armstrong discussion and he's ain't my boy, he's one of many fighters I enjoy watching and I rate him as the best in the world but c'mon son if anyone's "my boy" it's Gamboa or Broner!


    ps dude time for a new avatar, who is that clown? it annoys me to no end everytime I have to look at thaty smug looking yuppy.
     
  15. Mrpacman

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    I would take Pacquiao by knockout in 11 rounds. Henry does not have the versatility or footowork of Manny. Pacquiao would use his in and out style to confuse Henry.

    Pacquiao by knockout in 11. Better fight than Mayweather can give him too.