Lennox's arsenal and overall boxing compare to WK

I'd argue that wlads foot speed is better, his right hand is harder to read and his control of distance is better.

 

Wlad Klitschko would give any heavyweight in history a good fight and have a chance of beating them. He's an Olympic Gold Medalist and a Long Reigning world champion who just happens to be in a poor era of heavyweight boxing. He'd beat all the heavyweight pre 1980's just due to his size alone. Ali, Frazier, Liston, Louis and so on were fantastic boxers but wouldn't be big enough to trouble Wlad. As for Lewis I think he'd probably Knock Wlad out around rounds 8 or 9 which shows just how highly I rate Lewis.

 

I don't think wlad's footwork is as refined or as versatile as lennox's was, in fact I think wlads is fairly basic but he is remarkably swift for such a big dude. But I was impressed with how he dealt with haye's rushes. While haye hasn't got brilliant footwork either he is very quick about the ring but wlad managed to get out of range most of the time. it may have been in little hops and bounds at times but it was his foot speed that enabled him to get out.

My point about the right hand isn't so much about speed, it's more to do with how straight a shot wlad's right is. He feints quite a bit with it, then the opponent being focused on the jab combined with WK's hand speed and how straight the shot is makes it tricky to see coming. Lennox's right was more of an overhand right at times and sometimes he looped it a bit.

 

Spot on.

 

Did Lennox beat you when you been kid?
Lennox had typical British chin ... a glassed one
Wlad never went down as hard so he couldn't get up.

 

You are so horribly wrong, that it's obvious there is no point in discussing.

 

Wlad has a better work rate, footwork, and stamina

both had and equally powerful jab and right hand

at everything else Lewis is on top

 

Don't bother wasting your time, the general forum is 90% **** filled with ******s.

Unless you think that Wlad and Vitali are an unbeatable super-humans and the greatest fighters ever, then you are hater. It is that simple with these morons.

 

Some points you didn't mention at all:

1. Diet between fights? How disciplined was Lennox vs. Wlad? Clear advantage for Wlad. True dedication 365 days a year. Lennox lost that attitude thanks to his arrogance and cockiness.
2. Workrate? Oftentimes Lennox fell asleep during fights or got careless. Advantage for Wlad who is busy and concentrated every second of every round.
3. Ability to make a fight dirty. Clear advantage for Lennox here IMO. Wlad lacks a street fighting credibility that sometimes is needed in pro boxing. He makes up for it with his semi-illegal 'jab & push down' move.
4. Cockiness, which is a double-edged sword. It can help you and it can destroy you. Lennox (rightfully) underestimated guys like Grant or Golotha. However it almost backfired vs. Briggs and Vitali. Wlad doesn't do that (anymore). He'll overestimate even the worst bum. I'll give the advantage to Wlad here, just from a professional point of view.

 

I'd say you are wrong on some counts and also forgetting a few: Wlad's an inch or so taller and a slightly more dedicated professionel - we haven't seen him come in out of shape as Lewis did occasionally.

Let me state that I would agree Lewis is the overall better fighter and Wlad most likely won't surpass him because there are no great fighters out there for him to beat.

I do think Wladimir has more athletic talent, better balance and better movement (Steward has said words to that effect - even though he also believes Lewis is slightly superior overall).

I think the power is equal, and I didn't think Lennox was more exciting - he just had some better opponents.

Lewis' real advantage over Wlad is one of mentality. Even though his chin wasn't great, Lennox wasn't gunshy and when the going got tough - he got going. Wladimir showed in the first Peter fight that he can battle through adversity - but not like Lewis who had a warrior's heart. I think Lewis would win a prime H2H encounter because of his determination - but I don't think it would be easy for him and an upset could occur.

 

Lennox underestimated Golota???

 

Great points however I think if Lewis were to have carried on after vitali he'd never underestimate an opponent again. Who do you see as having the better chin?