Did Roy Jones start losing at LHW when his competition stepped up?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by bailey, Mar 5, 2012.


Page 1 of 87
  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

    39,973
    3,100
    Dec 11, 2009
    Did Roy Jones start losing at LHW when his competition stepped up?
    Looking at Jones big LHW names and match ups (only LHW)

    McCallum - had recently been beaten by Tiozzo
    Griffin - was a novice with no great LHW wins. Dont say Toney who had a terrible SMW and LHW resume and did nothing at LHW
    Hill - was coming off a loss to Michalczewski

    Tarver - was on a good run and pushed Jones then beat him in the rematch
    Johnson - Was on a good run and beat Jones
    Tarver - beats Jones again
    But Jones then has a run of 3 convincing wins against similar opposition to the Fraziers, Kellys etc and looks just as good.
    Calzaghe - On a good run schools Jones
    Then Jones has 2 fights at his old level and looked as good as before
    Hopkins - now LHW champ beats Jones when he stepped up again

    So was Jones a great LHW and just got old, or was he never a great LHW and just exposed when he stepped up

    Discuss
     
    bailey, Mar 5, 2012
    bailey, Mar 5, 2012
    #1
  2. pecho26

    pecho26 ESB Lurker Full Member

    2,334
    16
    Nov 19, 2010
    He got old,made a mistake when droping down again,lost all of his reflexes and speed.If only he stayed at hw....
     
    pecho26, Mar 5, 2012
    pecho26, Mar 5, 2012
    #2
  3. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    16,348
    2,312
    Apr 25, 2008
    Probably should have dropped to Cruiser and fought Tony after Ruiz.
    Please just shut the **** up with all this shite though mate. Sometimes you make good points and I'm sure you'll have some boxrec stats which you feel backs this ridiculous argument up but get down a boxing gym, learn the sport and grow up too.
     
    iceferg, Mar 5, 2012
    iceferg, Mar 5, 2012
    #3
  4. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

    39,973
    3,100
    Dec 11, 2009
    Yeah but he beat Tarver first time they fought
     
    bailey, Mar 5, 2012
    bailey, Mar 5, 2012
    #4
  5. Bobo

    Bobo Boxing Addict Full Member

    3,050
    5
    Feb 20, 2011
    :patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch:patsch
     
    Bobo, Mar 5, 2012
    Bobo, Mar 5, 2012
    #5
  6. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

    39,973
    3,100
    Dec 11, 2009
    If you dont like the threads, dont go on them.
    Where has Boxrec been used? Have your own opinion and stop trying to jump on others bandwagons
     
    bailey, Mar 5, 2012
    bailey, Mar 5, 2012
    #6
  7. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

    39,973
    3,100
    Dec 11, 2009
    Explain?
     
    bailey, Mar 5, 2012
    bailey, Mar 5, 2012
    #7
  8. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

    13,630
    655
    Oct 17, 2009

    i think you've hit the nail on the head. its a combination of jones being found out for taking banned anabolic steroids and fighting as a clean fighter for the 1st time in his career and jones finally stepping up his level opposition as a clean fighter.
     
    HEADBANGER, Mar 5, 2012
    HEADBANGER, Mar 5, 2012
    #8
  9. finalfight

    finalfight Boxing Addict Full Member

    6,706
    1
    Dec 5, 2008
    Barely. Jones was magnificent until he dropped back down in weight and lost his speed, reflexes and chin so quickly that even old Roy doesn't know what the **** happened.

    Such a ****ing shame.
     
    finalfight, Mar 5, 2012
    finalfight, Mar 5, 2012
    #9
  10. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

    39,973
    3,100
    Dec 11, 2009
    Well Headbanger, im just analysing a fighter at a certain weight division.
    I havent seen Jones doing well when stepped up at LHW (though wont dismiss any opinions). Tarver was a bit of a step up in that he really believed he could beat Jones and was on a fair winning run
     
    bailey, Mar 5, 2012
    bailey, Mar 5, 2012
    #10
  11. Cellz831

    Cellz831 Obsessed with Boxing banned

    20,344
    3
    Oct 21, 2011
    prime roy was unstoppable, ya hear me. UNSTOPPABLE!!
     
    Cellz831, Mar 5, 2012
    Cellz831, Mar 5, 2012
    #11
  12. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

    39,973
    3,100
    Dec 11, 2009
    It was close, but can you tell me another LHW that Jones had beaten who was on a good winning run in world class and not recently beaten?
    Gonzalez hadnt stepped up at that time, and R Johnson had been found a few times previously
     
    bailey, Mar 5, 2012
    bailey, Mar 5, 2012
    #12
  13. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

    39,973
    3,100
    Dec 11, 2009
    Same question - can you tell me another LHW that Jones had beaten who was on a good winning run in world class and not recently beaten?
    Gonzalez hadnt stepped up at that time, and R Johnson had been found a few times previously
     
    bailey, Mar 5, 2012
    bailey, Mar 5, 2012
    #13
  14. HEADBANGER

    HEADBANGER TEAM ELITE GENERAL Full Member

    13,630
    655
    Oct 17, 2009


    think richard hall was the fighter that roy finally tested positive for banned steroids whist fighting at 175.

    if you trace roys level of competition from this point onwards, it was absolutely terrible, an embarrassment to the sport of boxing. when roy finally stepped up his competition as a clean fighter, this is when roy got badly exposed.

    the lack of steroids in roy system probably slowed down his reflexes a little, and in turn that lead to roy being exposed for having p4p one of the worst glass jaws in boxing.
     
    HEADBANGER, Mar 5, 2012
    HEADBANGER, Mar 5, 2012
    #14
  15. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

    10,442
    295
    Jul 23, 2008
    oi bailey I heard you got a wardrobe full of these shirts

    This content is protected
     
    realsoulja, Mar 5, 2012
    realsoulja, Mar 5, 2012
    #15
Page 1 of 87