Did Roy Jones start losing at LHW when his competition stepped up?

you have an avatar that clearly illustrated your horrible pointy chin and shows you pushing your ladyboy partner down to sniff your stinking farts, how much more could a poster self pwn himself :rofl

someone stick a fork in this tranny, he's done :deal



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Jones was a guy who gained at least 18 pounds of muscle to fight John Ruiz at heavyweight, and then tried to go back down to 175 by shedding 18 pounds of muscle. That is the issue. Roy probably would have retired undefeated had he never moved up to heavyweight. He would have never lost to the likes of Tarver, Johnson, or Calzaghe.

 

Like Byrd:deal

 

what a shocking statement

a shot calzaghe despatched both jones and hopkins on foreign soil despite corrupt officiating.

hopkins has had the **** kicked out of him by the likes of mercado and jermain taylor and spent his career feasting on welterweights, turning down a career high payday to fight joe calzaghe in america in 2002. hopkins has never beaten an elite fighter at a fair weight in his entire career.

toney and jones are both steroid riddled disgraces, prime toney was getting the **** kicked out of him by the likes of dave tiberi, sanderline williams, sosa, midget griffin, and thadzi anyway.

roy jones was folding like a lawn chair when faced with adveristy, ducking big punchers, and never beat a lineal champion in his entire career. roy looked like superman fighting civil servants and 135lb punchbag pazienza but when roy stopped juicing and was in any kind of fight, he couldn't adapt in the ring, had no plan B and the punch resistance of a 94 year old great grandmother.

please for once, step outside of your insular world, quit the narrow minded delusion, take off the the star spangled glasses and take a dose of ****ing reality. you have spent a lifetime of being brainwashed by HBO and the ring magazine, you simply cannot see the wood for the trees.

 

And Holy :deal

 

I'd snatch your ****ing useless life away with my pawing jab, ******. It wouldn't take more than the breeze from one of my feints to knock your rotten ass teeth down your **** sheath and leave you hooked up to a breathing machine. :yep

 

your a tranny with a horrible little pointed chin

you have limp wrists and couldn't knock the skin off a rice pudding :rofl

you have zero punch resistance and everything you know about boxing could be written on the back of a postage stamp :deal

 

You couldn't break a ****ing soap bubble with your best sunday punch, you silly ******.

The fact that you don't even know what the **** JMM looks like and you think he's me speaks volumes about your boxing knowledge. You'd need a ****ing big ass magic marker to fill the back of a postage stamp with what the **** you know. :deal

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Jones,_Jr.
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Here is a link to the wiki page on Roy Jones Jr. where they state that he tested positive for Androstenedione and there are sources of that information listed at the bottom of the page for you to verify the accuracy of the claims if you so dispute them.

There is also another link to a wiki page about the Androstenendione Jones tested positive for. In the article it states that

*Androstenedione was manufactured as a dietary supplement

*Andro was legal and able to be purchased over the counter

*Barry R. McCaffrey, the director of the White House's Office of National Drug Control Policy, attempted to determine whether androstenedione could be classified as an anabolic steroid in July 1999. However, it could not because there is no proof of it promoting muscle growth.

*On March 12, 2004, the Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 2004 was introduced into the United States Senate. It amended the Controlled Substance Act to place both anabolic steroids and prohormones on a list of controlled substances, making possession of the banned substances a federal crime. The law took effect on January 20, 2005. However, androstenedione was legally defined as an anabolic steroid, even though there is scant evidence that androstenedione itself is anabolic in nature.

*Androstenedione has been shown to increase serum testosterone levels over an eight-hour period in men when taken as a single oral dose of 300 mg per day, but a dose of 100 mg had no significant effect on serum testosterone.

*A 2006 review paper summarized several studies that examined the effect of androstenedione on strength training. At dosages of 50 mg or 100 mg per day, andro had no effect on muscle strength or size, or on body fat levels. One study used a daily dosage of 300 mg of androstenedione combined with several other supplements, and also found no increase in strength when compared to a control group that did not take the supplements.

Soooo, I don't think anyone should be going about acting like Jones was juiced out on Deca Durabolin, Dianabol, Winstrol, Anavar, and a whole host of other stuff. While Andro may have been a taboo and due to the questions around it, listed as an anabolic steroid, it's clearly and obviously not in the realm that folks are trying to portray. Do not confuse this rhetoric as condoning doping in sports. There is no room for that and it is cheating. However, Andro wasn't illegal at the time, most people didn't test for it because it wasn't illegal or a banned substance, and in this particular case Jones' opponent was using at a far higher level than he was so it didn't matter anyways. There is no point in trumping it up like it completely discredits his whole career, his accomplishments, or his God given skills. Taking any kind of steroid isn't a replacement for the hard work and training it takes to perform at the highest level of any sport. It's not some magic substance that can give you the intangibles necessary to be a great fighter. It can't replace or put in place mental toughness, reflex, strategy and ring smarts, hand speed, footwork, accuracy, and a whole slew of other skills.

As it pertains to Roy Jones Jr. I don't think his decline is entirely due to his level of competition. The level of competition is what EXPOSED the decline. I think the decline really came from moving up then down in weight. Having your weight fluctuate is hard on the body, especially an aging body. It is also pretty common knowledge that moving so drastically up in weight and moving down is even harder on your body. There are countless examples of this with a wide range of fighters, Roy Jones is no different. Of course some of this is simply due to the natural aging process, at some point your gifts will be gone when you're talking about sports.

 

Good post. I stand corrected. Before now I had never seen a credible source that said he tested positive for andro and I was led to believe that it was a stimulant found in an over the counter supplement that he tested positive for. From what I've read about it, this **** is largely thought of as useless and was perfectly legal, not on any banned substance list and available over the counter back in 2000. :think

 

Yeeaauuhh!

 

You definitely have a unique understanding of what getting the "**** kicked" out of someone means. You then pick three controversial decisions, to use as examples. Hopkins had no marks on him after either Taylor fight, as Taylor didn't land much of anything in terms of power shots upstairs, and although being put on his arse in the Mercado fight once legitamately, that wasn't a **** kicking either.

 

good question. prime rjj beats anybody, my oppinion.

but take prime roy @ super middleweight vs

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and he sure as hell would have had a tough time with soem of them, still I favor him over all.

same for light heavyweight,

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wouldn't have been easy wins either.

 

No. R. Johnson, Hill, Gonzalez, Harmon, Harding, Griffin were all at least as good as Tarver, Glen. and better than Green, And Roy DID beat Tarver also who barely got by Gonzalez and lost to Harding. People hate on Roy and his resume more than any other fighter, despite a solid resume and dominating guys like no one else.

 

ehhhh a little bit but the weight hurt him also....i think a prime jones was almost unbeatable based of talent alone...he was so quick u couldnt catch him...even with presure and trying to cut the ring off