Floyd: Pacquiao has no record breaking numbers

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  1. tonys333

    tonys333 Active Member Full Member

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    2009
    1.Pacquiao-Cotto...............1.25M PPV ($70M).......($8.85M gate -crowd:15,930)
    2.Mayweather-Marquez.......1.05M PPV ($52M).......($6.81M gate -crowd:13,116)
    3.Pacquiao-Hatton..............850K PPV ($45M)........($8.83M gate -crowd:16,262)
    2010
    1.Mayweather-Mosley..........1.4M PPV ($78.3M)......($11.03M gate -crowd:15,117)
    2.Pacquiao-Margarito..........1.15M PPV ($64M).......($5.4M gate -crowd:40,154)
    3.Pacquiao-Clottey..............700K PPV ($35.3M).....($6.36M gate -crowd:41,843)
    2011
    1.Pacquiao-Marquez............1.41M PPV ($77.6M*)..($11.65M gate -crowd:16,389)
    2.Mayweather-Ortiz.............1.25M PPV ($78.4M)....($9M gate -crowd:14,687)
    3.Pacquiao-Mosley..............1.3M~ PPV ($76M).......($8.88M gate -crowd:16,412)
    *1.41M PPV x $54.95...PPV gross will be more taking into account HD buys at $64.95




    Crowds
    2011
    Pacquiao v Mosley.............16,412 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)
    Pacquiao v Marquez...........16,389 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)
    Mayweather v Ortiz.............14,687 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)
    2010
    Pacquiao v Clottey.............41,843 (Cowboys Stadium, Texas)
    Pacquiao v Margarito..........40,154 (Cowboys Stadium, Texas)
    Mayweather v Mosley..........15,117 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)
    2009
    Pacquiao v Hatton..............16,262 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)
    Pacquiao v Cotto................15,930 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)
    Mayweather v Marquez........13,116 (MGM Grand, Las Vegas)
     
  2. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    these two fight numbers were never released with any actual revenue numbers despite supposedly being emmanuel's two most successful PPVs.:think
     
  3. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    thanks!

    this fight is 50/50 and only a red-hot flaming ***** would deny it.
     
  4. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    this post deserves another bump.
     
  5. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    numbers here reflect a 50-50 split or floyd getting 10% more if he wins.
     
  6. Nay_Sayer

    Nay_Sayer On Rick James Status banned Full Member

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    He also collected a few losses along the way in addition to the Marquez fiasco - FACTS that you *******s conveniently ignore.

    And it's highly debateable if Pacquiao has beaten better opposition than Mayweather...
     
  7. Nay_Sayer

    Nay_Sayer On Rick James Status banned Full Member

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    Source for these numbers please...
     
  8. Nay_Sayer

    Nay_Sayer On Rick James Status banned Full Member

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    Like WHO?

    Names please...
     
  9. puga_ni_nana

    puga_ni_nana Dempsey Roll Full Member

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    :lol:

    barrera, morales and marquez at or near their prime weights.
     
  10. tonys333

    tonys333 Active Member Full Member

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    Elite Club of Multiple Division World Champions w/ at least 4:
    8 - Manny Pacquiao (112, 122, 126, 130, 135, 140, 147, 154)
    6 - Oscar DeLa Hoya (130, 135, 140, 147, 154, 160)
    5 - Thomas Hearns (147, 154, 160, 168, 175)
    5 - Sugar Ray Leonard (147, 154, 160, 168, 175)
    5 - Floyd Mayweather Jr. (130, 135, 140, 147, 154)
    4 - Roberto Duran (135, 147, 154, 160)
    4 - Pernell Whitaker (135, 140, 147, 154)
    4 - Leo Gomez (105, 108, 112, 115)
    4 - Roy Jones Jr. (160, 168, 175, 200+)

    Elite Club of Multiple Awardee of Ring Figther of the Year w/ at least 3:
    5 - Muhhamad Ali - 1963, 1972, 1974, 1975, 1978
    4 - Joe Louis - 1936, 1938, 1939, 1941
    3 - Joe Frazier - 1967, 1970, 1971
    3 - Evander Holyfield - 1987, 1996, 1997
    3 - Manny Pacquiao - 2006, 2008, 2009*

    Elite Club of Multiple Awardee of BWAA Figther of the Year w/ at least 3:
    3 - Muhhamad Ali - 1965, 1974, 1975
    3 - Joe Frazier - 1969, 1971, 1975
    3 - Sugar Ray Leonard - 1976, 1979, 1981
    3 - Evander Holyfield - 1990, 1996, 1997
    3 - Manny Pacquiao - 2006, 2008, 2009*

    The Greatest Fighters by decade, for the last 80 years (basis for the 2002 Ring Magazine “The 80 best fighters of the previous 80 years”) were:
    Decade - Boxer - [Rank in Top 10 ATG (2002)]
    1920s: Benny Leonard [#8]
    1930s: Henry Armstrong [#2]
    1940s: Ray Robinson [#1]
    1950s: Ray Robinson [#1]
    1960s: Muhammad Ali [#3]
    1970s: Roberto Duran [#5]
    1980s: Ray Leonard: [#9]
    1990s: Roy Jones Jr.
    2000s: Manny Pacquiao

    Boxing Writers Association of America - Fighter of the Decade awardees:
    1990s: Roy Jones Jr.
    2000s: Manny Pacquiao

    Most Lineal Championship Titles:
    5 - Manny Pacquiao
    3 - Sugar Ray Leonard
    3 - Oscar De La Hoya
    3 - Floyd Mayweather Jr.

    Comparing Manny Pacquiao among the Ring top-10 ATG Fighters:

    Career W-L-D Record:
    Joe Louis =========== 66-3-0 ======= 0.957
    Willie Pep =========== 229-11-1 ===== 0.950
    Muhhamad Ali ======== 56-5-0 ======= 0.918
    Manny Pacquiao ====== 54-3-2 ======= 0.915 (4th)
    Sugar Ray Leonard ==== 36-3-1 ======= 0.900
    Pernell Whitaker ====== 40-4-1 ======= 0.889
    Sugar Ray Robinson === 175-19-6 ===== 0.875
    Harry Greb ========== 260-20-18 ==== 0.872
    Roberto Duran ======= 103-16-0 ===== 0.866
    Benny Leonard ======= 184-19-11 ==== 0.860
    Henry Armstrong ===== 149-21-10 ==== 0.828

    KO Percentage:
    Joe Louis ============= 75.36%
    Manny Pacquiao ======== 64.41% (2nd)
    Sugar Ray Leonard ====== 62.50%
    Muhhamad Ali ========== 60.66%
    Roberto Duran ========= 58.85%
    Henry Armstrong ======= 56.11%
    Sugar Ray Robinson ===== 54.00%
    Pernell Whitaker ======== 36.96%
    Willie Pep ============= 26.97%
    Benny Leonard ========= N/A
    Harry Greb ============ N/A

    Peak Record:
    Harry Greb ============ 258-18-18
    Benny Leonard ========= 184-18-11
    Willie Pep ============= 134-1-1
    Sugar Ray Robinson ===== 128-1-2
    Henry Armstrong ======= 108-12-8
    Roberto Duran ========= 72-1-0
    Joe Louis ============= 58-1-0
    Muhhamad Ali ========== 55-2-0
    Manny Pacquiao ======== 54-3-2 (9th)
    Pernell Whitaker ======== 40-1-1
    Sugar Ray Leonard ====== 35-1-1

    Number of HOF'er Defeated:
    Harry Greb ------------------ 13
    Norfolk, Tunney, Blackburn, Dillon, Flowers, Walker, Loughran, Miske,
    Levinskey, M. Gibbons, Rosenbloom, Slattery, T. Gibbons
    Sugar Ray Robinson -------- 10
    Armstrong, LaMotta, Fullmer, Gavilan, Basilio, Graziano,
    Zivic, Turpin, Angott, Olson
    Henry Armstrong ----------- 10
    Wolgast, Ross, Angott, Ambers, Jenkins, Zivic,
    Montanez, Bass, Wright, Arizmendi
    Joe Louis -------------------- 8
    Schmeling, Sharkey, Conn, Walcott, Baer, Braddock,
    Lewis, Bivins
    Muhhamad Ali --------------- 7
    Foster, Moore, Frazier, Foreman, Liston, Patterson, Norton
    Benny Leonard -------------- 7
    Tendler, Kansas, Dundee, Ritchie, Britton,
    Kilbane, Welsh
    Manny Pacquiao ------------- 7 (6th)
    Barrera, Morales, Marquez, DeLa Hoya, Cotto, Hatton, Mosley
    *Assuming all makes it in IBHOF
    Sugar Ray Leonard --------- 4
    Duran, Benitez, Hagler, Hearns
    Roberto Duran -------------- 4
    Leonard, Cuevas, Palomino, Buchanan
    *De Jesus & Marcel have strong chances though
    Willie Pep ------------------- 3
    Saddler, Ortiz, Wright
    Pernell Whitaker ------------ 2
    Nelson, Ramirez

    Average of Opponent's Record:
    Ranking by Percentage:
    Muhhamad Ali ========== 33-5-1 ======= 0.850
    Pernell Whitaker ======== 28-4-1 ======= 0.850
    Sugar Ray Leonard ====== 32-5-1 ======= 0.840
    Manny Pacquiao ======== 25-4-1 ======= 0.833(4th)
    Roberto Duran ========= 21-5-1 ======== 0.780
    Joe Louis ============= 40-10-3 ======= 0.755
    Sugar Ray Robinson ===== 39-14-4 ======= 0.684
    Henry Armstrong ======= 40-14-6 ====== 0.667
    Willie Pep ============= N/A
    Harry Greb ============ N/A
    Benny Leonard ========= N/A

    Average of Opponent's Record:
    Ranking by No. of Wins minus No. of Losses:
    Joe Louis ============= 40-10-3
    Muhhamad Ali ========== 33-5-1
    Sugar Ray Leonard ====== 32-5-1
    Henry Armstrong ======= 40-14-6
    Sugar Ray Robinson ===== 39-14-4
    Pernell Whitaker ======== 28-4-1
    Manny Pacquiao ======== 25-4-1(7th)
    Roberto Duran ========= 21-5-1
    Willie Pep ============= N/A
    Harry Greb ============ N/A
    Benny Leonard ========= N/A

    Pacquiao's Other Statistics:
    World Title Fights Record: 15-1-2
    Number of Defeated World Champions: 15
    Longest Win streak w/o a draw: 15
    First Held a World Title at age: 19
    Last Held a World Title at age: 32 (present)
    Never fought a 0-0-0 fighter
     
  11. tonys333

    tonys333 Active Member Full Member

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    its a 50-50 fight an who says its not probaly dont want it to happen
     
  12. Mrpacman

    Mrpacman Guest

    ***** will ignore this.

    50/50 or 45 45 10 to winner. Floyd should take it or leave it but if he leave it, he will go down boxing history as coward.
     
  13. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Its not debatable. Make a poll. Pac is well ahead of Floyd in ATG rankings. And before you shout shot this shot that, B level this, we can say the same for all of Floyd's comp, twist and turn **** all you like, all applies to Floyd.

    Fact. What Pac is doing now is unbelievable and if asked if he would have done this 5 years ago, they would have ranked him top 5 ATG of all time.
     
  14. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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  15. Mrpacman

    Mrpacman Guest

    Floyd don't do record break numbers like Manny. ***** in full damage control LOL.