Clearing up the Klitschko illusion

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  1. Davo

    Davo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :rofl

    The Klits are clearly the best all-time of any HWs who've refused to fight half the division in a **** era yet still lost a few fights and somehow gotten away with it.
     
  2. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    Ok sorry. My error. :good
     
  3. greatone

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    No prob.
     
  4. Squire

    Squire Let's Go Champ Full Member

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    I think Arreola and Chisora showed enough aggression and heart to warrant a fight with Wlad. I'd be excited about either of those. On the contrary, Haye showed his toe

    Nah, I'd love to see Haye against Vitali. Vitali is well past prime and Haye did a lot better than I expected against Wlad. I think a younger Vitali would decapitate Haye, but he's slowed and lost a lot of power. It would be a good fight for him to retire on
     
  5. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, it's unrealistic to think each of them would fight EVERY name on the division. The only guys who did this in the past were Louis and Ali.
     
  6. Koman600

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    you really expect them to fight every person on that list, each..

    your crazy
     
  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    Wlad is a great on his own. Vitali is a guy who's settled for second best.
     
  8. Cachibatches

    Cachibatches Boxing Junkie banned

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    There were about six good black fighters out there that Louis did not face.

    Love the guy, and I understand it is because he could not make money fighting black, but he did not clean out the division, and that is truth.
     
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    Legion of Doom was Gangsta
     
  11. rorik_bender

    rorik_bender Bellhop. Full Member

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    Vitaly is going to retire soon and we will see what Wlad is made of.
     
  12. itsa huge bitch

    itsa huge bitch Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    these threads are getting more and more ****ing ******ed..its unreal
     
  13. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Of course. One could mention Elmer Ray, for example.

    "Cleaning the division" is relative. It is obvious that no champion is gonna beat EVERY contender in the Top10 during his reign. Probably not even 70%.

    But guys like Ali and Louis did a great job. And others like Jack Johnson, Marciano, Liston, Holmes, young Tyson, Holyfield, Lewis, and W. Klitschko, also did a good job. And you could say "they cleaned their division".
     
  14. Very good point of view. Every time they list the top contenders they say oh this guy already lost to Vitali and this guy was beaten by Wlad etc as if the Klits are on guy.
     
  15. shaunster101

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