Michael Spinks vs David Haye - best night

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  1. Black2023

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    Both men were talented fighters, both achieved lots in the lower weights and both had quite sporadic heavyweights careers in terms of opponents, very similar in size-

    For my lovers/ fanboys

    M. Spinks 6'2 1/2


    WUD15 199lbs L. Holmes 48-0 IBF, Lineal
    WSD15 205lbs L. Holmes 48-1 IBF, Lineal
    Wkor5 201lbs S. Tangstead 24-1-2 IBF, Lineal
    Wkor5 208lbs G. Cooney 28-1 Lineal
    Lkor1 212lbs M. Tyson 34-0 WBC, WBA, IBF, Linea;


    D. Haye 6'2 1/2

    Wkor1 217lbs T. Bonin 37-1
    Wkor5 215lbs M. Barrett 34-6
    WUD12 217lbs N. Valuev 50-1 WBA
    Wkor9 222lbs J. Ruiz 44-8-1 WBA
    Wkor3 210lbs A. Harrison 27-4 WBA
    LUD12 210lbs W. Klitschko 55-3 IBF, WBO, WBA, Lineal



    Who wins it, breakdown of why.
     
    Black2023, Mar 10, 2012
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  2. avo

    avo I Got Milk Baby!!! Full Member

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    Spinks because Haye is/was ****
     
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  3. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    seriously man, no nostalgia or any **** like that, Haye is not going to beat Mike Spinks, Haye is going to be so outboxed it would be a joke.

    Spinks was a master of turning back foot to front foot in an instance, he puts punches in bunches together in a way that makes Haye red with envy. What does Haye have here? A hard right hand? What's he going to do, run across the ring and swing a full blooded right hand at Spinks and ko him? Without any educated pressure or good combination punching that is not going to happen without him paying for it badly. What's his other option? To outbox Spinks with a display of snappy jabbing etc? That actually makes me laugh.

    Haye is totally outclassed. It doesn't matter that Spinks was greater at 175, he moved up and battered Cooney who was so much bigger than him, and he beat a past prime Larry Holmes who was still infinitely better than a prime David Haye, and he came through so much hell in the first fight, which he deserved to win. Haye isn't going to torment Spinks' torso the way Larry did.

    No win for Haye in a million years.
     
    teeto, Mar 10, 2012
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  4. Spearmint Rhino

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    Spinks 120-108 x3.
     
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  5. Ilesey

    Ilesey ~ Full Member

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    Spinks would just be too good in my opinion. Wide UD if not a late soppage.
     
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  6. Flea Man

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    Spinks was a very awkward proposition. Haye will be too cautious to let go, and I think it's Spinks that dictates the pace and lands an accurate Jinx at some point to take Haye out.
     
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  7. slip&counter

    slip&counter Gimme some X's and O's Full Member

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    Easy nights work for Mike. Just different levels and there are fighters one or two levels below Mike Spinks that would beat Haye.
     
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  8. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Agreed.
     
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  9. Black2023

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    Spinks was unlucky really I mean he had to fight two top 10 all times just to be a champion and and a top level contender in Cooney.

    I use to hate when people said Spinks was nothing when Tyson did away with him, Spinks was a good heavyweight and a great Light-Heavy.

    Tyson at his best was a monster heavyweight.
     
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  10. Macca L20

    Macca L20 Active Member Full Member

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    Spinks all day against Haye. Everytime i think of Michael Spinks i think
    back to the Tyson fight and his "rabbit in the headlights" face. He was
    genuinely terrified.
     
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  11. Flea Man

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    Yes and Spinks was already pretty much retired at that point, although I maintain that the best Tyson always would've walked through Mike.

    One of the greatest 175lbers of all time and arguably the best H2H force at the weight. Spinks is one of the ATGs, I have him anywhere between 31-40.
     
    Flea Man, Mar 10, 2012
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  12. Black2023

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    Anyone fancy doing a detailed breakdown.


    Haye would throw more without a doubt, as he would fancy it with Spinks being his size...but then Spinks style was different to Ruiz and he was far better than Bonin and Barett.


    Haye lack of a jab could be his downfall, I reckon Spinks is hurt on a few occasions, but the latter part of the fight he works Haye out and installs a shut out- Cooney, hits just as hard as Haye so anyone doubting punch resistant should think again.

    1- 10-9 Spinks
    2- 10-9 Haye
    3- 10-10
    4- 10-9 Haye
    5- 10-9 Spinks
    6- 10-9 Spinks
    7- 10-9 Spinks
    8- 10-9 Haye
    9- 10-9 Spinks
    10- 10-9 Spinks
    11- 10-10
    12- 10-9 Spinkls

    Spinks wins a 117-113/ 116-112/ 117-114 type UD

    Or
    Spinks 7 rounds
    Haye 3 rounds
    Even 2 rounds

    Of course im just speculating but I think Spinks wins by 4 rounds or so.
     
    Black2023, Mar 10, 2012
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  13. Black2023

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    31-30

    At heavy?
     
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  14. Spearmint Rhino

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    It would be interesting for an impartial observer to list HW champions (real ones or otherwise) that Haye would be favoured to beat.

    Even though I hate the ******* I'd imagine the number might be higher than I'd initially suspect.
     
    Spearmint Rhino, Mar 10, 2012
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  15. Flea Man

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    No, 31-40 on my P4P list.
     
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