Wlad Klitchko V (Pre Manny Steward) Lennox Lewis

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  1. hookfromhell

    hookfromhell Well-Known Member Full Member

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  2. dillinja

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    I think you are well wrong on the level of Lewis's chin, he took plenty of bombs and didn't go down.:huh
     
  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    It isn't about how good I think his chin is. McCall ended proceedings with one punch.

    It's about the likelihood of other heavyweights replicating oliver's success that night.

    I think loads could. I do not think loads would.

    It's heavyweight boxing at the top level, most top contenders could end a fight with one punch given the correct set of circumstances.
     
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    I'm probably one of the few who think that a pre-Manny Lewis was probably more difficult to beat than a post manny Lewis. he was quicker, and much more agressive. Yes, he had flaws, but so did the post Manny Lewis as illustrated by the Rahman fight. But the pre-Manny Lewis had more of a killer instinct than did the post Manny Lewis and was, in my opinion far more dangerous and entertaining. I think that version of Lewis would beat any version of Wad, easier than would be the post-Manny version. And since Wlad tends to be passive in the early rounds or when pressured, I think Lewis's flaws are something Wlad would be unlikely to capitalize on.
     
  5. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    I would say the smaller and slower Bruno did a good job of everything you said can't be done against this version of Lewis untlil he quit boxing and stupidly bum rushed Lewis and ate that huge left hook. Wlad wouldn't make that mistake, he would stay composed and keep boxing smart until he knew Lewis was really ready to go.

    Prior to the stupid bull rush that got him knocked out, Bruno was controlling the distance and knocking Lewis all over the place with jabs, left hooks, and right hands. The same weapons Wlad used. If Bruno can keep Lewis at range, surely Wlad can. Lewis is a only an effective pressure guy if he isn't intimidated by your power, he was intimidated by Brunos, and likewise would be by Wlad.

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcLEU1_u0hs[/ame]
     
  6. FilipMNE

    FilipMNE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If we are talking about Wlad without Steward vs Lennox with Steward then its easy KO for Lennox, and if we talk prime vs prime lennox wins but not easy as against Wlad without Steward!
     
  7. DonBoxer

    DonBoxer The Lion! Full Member

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    Bruno is a lot tougher than Wlad.
     
  8. lufcrazy

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    I didn't say it can't be done. I actually said lewis got backed up a few times in his career but punches had to be taken and the success didn't last long.

    I don't think wlad could take the punches required to actually box that version of lewis. He is quicker than bruno and can easily match his punch array but bruno could take shots up to a certain point.

    The fight in particular was fairly even and bruno didn't control it. He had tremendous success at times and got over confident when he thought he had lewis cornered.

    Whilst technically wlad could easily match bruno's success, he couldn't take the shots that bruno took.

    Lewis would hurt wlad sooner than he hurt bruno. He would see wlad's reluctance to take shots and capitalise upon it. He'd have adapted sooner and got to wlad unless wlad stops him dead which I don't think he would.

    What would be interesting is the pre manny version of each against each other. That would essentially be a shootout. First to land big wins.
     
  9. Guyfawkes

    Guyfawkes Than who was phone?! Full Member

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    Lennox makes Voidtali's face look like a tenderized beef roast once again
    Lewis TKO 6 AGAIN
     
  10. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    No, he isn't.
     
  11. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Bruno was the heavyweight Quartey, that's his advantage over Wlad.
     
  12. The Mongoose

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    I'm not trying to be an ass but frankly, what shots are you talking about? Lewis couldn't find Bruno with his right hand or left hook. Prior to Bruno's death charge, the only good punch Lewis was landing on the money was his jab though he premdominately was getting outboxed. Again something he would have more trouble doing against Wlad.


    Here's the whole fight, please point out the "shots" Wlad isn't going to take?

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBlJnN5-vwA&feature=related[/ame]

    Lewis gets in some jabs. Surely, those showy arm punches in the half assed clinch to clsoe Round 2 aren't what you are talking about?

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaUFxGhBXJo[/ame]

    Round 5: Perhaps the only right hand power shot you can count as a land for Lewis. From camera angle, really didn't look to land too good on the jaw, may have caught some shoulder. I don't see this punch making Wlad do the chicken dance.


    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KKH_Ezoh58&feature=related[/ame]

    Bruno's death charge approaches but still prior to meeting his fate Lewis is only getting that jab in with any accuracy. Lewis is missing so many right hands and left hooks and Bruno isn't even doing anything special but pushing his jab in the Lion's face and mixing in the occassional left hook or right hand. Your telling me Wlad couldn't do this sans the death charge?

    There's some occassional body punches from Lewis, but so sporadic...not really much you can sell Bruno's superior durability on.


    Come on, guys! REALLY?
     
  13. The Mongoose

    The Mongoose I honor my bets banned

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    Seriously,

    Lewis is missing so many power shots in this you would think he's fighting..Chris Byrd. He just can't find Bruno with any big shots until Frank practically throws his chin into Lewis' glove after outboxing him for most of the match.
     
  14. The Mongoose

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    Wlad is the Thomas Hearns Heavyweight. :nut
     
  15. Foreman Hook

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    Thats how i see it m8, Lenny by BRUTAL KO1 or KO2. :thumbsup