The all things technical thread.

Yeah I've read that before & although its interesting I dont agree with the idea that wrist(skeleton) size can be equated to punching power. The author uses only 3 examples which fit his idea (Pac, Tyson & Louis) but there have been plenty of slim guys amongst the greatest ever punchers.

 

Yeah, I thought the power element was a bit of a shot in the dark on the authors part, but the stamina point seems like good science. Bigger bones, more bone marrow, better facility to supply muscles etc.

The modern idea of strength and conditioning seems to be that you get stronger and fitter, when really the two principles have to be balanced. Stronger/bulkier guys are working harder all the time, and so even with increased fitness levels they are burning more energy, draining the tank quicker.

I think a lot of the 15 round fighters were much better conditioned, because they weren't as concerned with the strength element. At the end of the day two 160 pound men both have the same amount of mass to fling around, and more often than not, the man who appears stronger in a clinch etc is just the man who has got his body/feet in a better position to use his mass. Speed and power don't correlate with strength amongst fighters IMO, and so I think the idea that boxers dedicate so much time to "strength" is a bit backwards to me. In my gym there is hardly anything in any of the circuits that a 9yr old boy couldn't do in terms of strength.

 

Its better training, what your talking is will to win, will to train...which clearly from evidence...alot of fighters dont train..

 

this is a great post. I have been told a few times I am strong and I am really not. i think I am better at using my weight than others. in terms of bench pressing I prob could only do 60kgs. squat **** all. dead i would put my back out. but i havent had problems moving someone around the ring unless they really fight it. wehich is fine by me as wrestling with your opponent drains you.

 

The left hook off a right hand (Bob Foster)....

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I love the way he rotates his hips & uses his whole body to perfectly deliver the shot :smoke

 

No, I'm talking the ability to maintain a consistent workrate (regardless of style) over 12 rounds. There are not many that can IMO.

 

Juan Manuel Marquez has mastered the uppercut. Most people have one or two tricks with it like they can throw it up close repeatedly (Hatton, Rios) or the walk somebody onto a big one (Zab) but Marquez doesn't just have the one trick with it he can use it any way he likes in every situation from either hand. He even throws them while moving forward.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MFWg0azAcA[/ame]

 

Foster was unique, I've been reading accounts of his fights that I cant find footage of & he ruined guys with his right hand as well. That left hook he had was a thing of beauty, he was bombing out top rated contenders in sparring when he was still an amatuer.

Horrific power in both hands but so economical & patient with his work, Ive been watching a lot of Foster recently & I'm a big fan. For a tall fighter he could be pretty slick & had very good handspeed & accuracy.

Tyson & Marciano were both guys who relied a lot on torque but were more like sluggers than pressure fighters imo. They punched from extreme positions & odd angles which was vital as they both had short arms.

 

I can skip like a mofo (no homo)

 

Had a go on the double end bag straight after work tnite, still in work clothes big jumper and fleece wooly hat etc.....Smacked the **** out of it for 15-20 mins and I was sweating buckets, face and neck were red as ****!

Gonna do that every night now, in work gear.