Riddick Bowe was an overrated bum

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Vladimir23, Mar 13, 2012.


  1. DrMo

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    Thats right :good

    -Bowe was the undisputed champion & is still the only HW to have won all 4 major belts

    -Only lost once & that was by a single point against an ATG who he beat twice
     
  2. Comrade Aleksei

    Comrade Aleksei dr eisenfaust Full Member

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    the klits would destroy all these bums... just look at my custom klit avatar
     
  3. vnyc

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    anus, what's up?
     
  4. Vladimir23

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  6. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You are a bum for saying that. Big Daddy Bowe proved and going beyond the call of duty in Nov 1992 in the Thomas&Mack Center that he deserved to be the NÂș1 HW in the World against a stoic former undefeated undisputed champ. When he was WBO titlist and after embarassing Herbie Hide, he was the only man that far to stop Holyfield who would later stop Tyson and he demolished man-mountain, once an amateur cuban and dominant Jorge Luis Gonzales. Just cause he faced a madman and there are no doubts that Andrew Golota was mad and was being overpowered, that doesn't mean ****!!!
     
  7. JoeAverage

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    Bowe is ridiculously overrated by some.

    I can only think of one reason... he has a row of arce-typical african traits that appeal to some african-american posters.

    Maybe.. maybe not. I have no clue, but it cannot be boxing facts, because there he is nothing.

    His only wins were against a much smaller Evander. He never beat a good fighter of his own size... and he never would have. Even Golota who was fairly good, but also nothin really special... clearly outclassed Bowe. Either Klitscho would have easily beat Bowe. Although Bowe would never want to meet them.

    Just like he avoided Lennox like the plague.
     
  8. CubanHeel

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    Bowe wasn't a bum but he is extremely overrated.
    His best wins were over a much smaller Evnader Holyfield, who is overrated at HW in his own right.
    Golota decimated Bowe twice, wiped the floor with him before teeing off on his bollocks and getting DQ'd. I give Bowe credit for those fights only because of the vicious beatings he sustained without giving in.
    Had Bowe decided to face Lennox Lewis he would've suffered the same fate as Golota.
     
  9. Dr.SweetScience

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    DR.SWEETSCIENCE TO THE RESCUE!!!!!!!


    You mean overrated BECAUSE he's an American and you have some kind of beef against Americans for no reason at all other than the jealously of the fact that we've bred more great fighters than anywhere else on the planet regardless of race, color, or creed? Holyfield was a world renowned fighter, globally recognized as the best Cruiserweight, then the best Heavyweight. He fought ****ing WARS in the ring and his body paid the price for it. Don't you dare ****ing disrespect that man or call him any less than a legend of the ring.

    You also make no distinction between WHEN each of these fights happened and at what stage of their careers either man was in. Holyfield fought Byrd in 2002, WELL past his prime, and a shadow of the guy he once was at the age of 40 while Byrd was in his prime at the age of 32 a full 8 years younger than Holyfield.

    When Byrd fought Wlad and Vitali not only were they both in their physical primes, but Byrd went the distance the first time with Wlad, was well past his prime the 2nd time, and won against Vitali since he quit during the fight due to a torn rotator cuff regardless of how the fight was going for him prior to the stoppage.

    Again, you make no distinction between when these fights occurred and at what stage of their careers each fighter was in. Holyfield went to a decision with Donald and that took place in 2004, making Holyfield 42 years old. You mean to tell me the 42 yr old Holyfield is supposed to be the same guy that was battling it out with Riddick Bowe in the early 90's??? How ****ing delusional are you???

    And of what significance is it that Vitali knocked out Donald??? So what??? It would make Vitali look like a joke if he couldn't. Larry Donald was never anything special to begin with, he was only lucky to catch Holyfield later in his career rather than much sooner. And BTW, Riddick Bowe BEAT Larry Donald in 1994, as would have Holyfield.

    And the Ibragimov fight was even LATER in Holyfield's career, 2007. You act like the Holyfield of the 2000's who is way past his prime is the end all-be all judging criteria for him, when you're completely ignoring the previous 20 YEARS of his career. And again, so what Wlad beat Ibragimov, SO WHAT! If he's half as good as you and others make him to be that shouldn't even be a challenge, and he's been dominating these guys in his physical prime, all the while possessing superior physical gifts that allow him to do so. Let's see how Wlad and Vitali is fighting when they're well into his 40's like Holyfield. Something tells me they won't be half as successful.

    And those fights happened in 2000 and 2001 after Holyfield had arguably his last two great fights against Lennox Lewis who beat the **** out of Vitali to the point that the fight was stopped on him. See I can draw meaningless parallels too. John Ruiz had a 1-1-1 record against Holyfield which means they were even in their trilogy, so that means NOTHING either. You forgot to mention the LOSS Ruiz suffered in their first fight. Oh and BTW Haye fought Ruiz at the very end of his career after he had already been in a ton of fights and been fighting pro for 18 years, so what kind of big victory is that???

    And again, that's Holyfield in 2003, well past his prime, but still fighting, and still winning more than losing. He's had a few fights robbed from him in close decisions as well which is a shame because he would be something like a 5,6,7,8, time Heavyweight Champion at this point had he not been screwed over a few times. James Toney was no big deal heavyweight either, and what about him makes it some giant accomplishment for either Klitschko to have beaten??? They SHOULD easily beat guys like Peter, Byrd, Ruiz, Ibragimov, etc...


    The same Lennox Lewis who never got to fight him earlier on in his prime because he got his ass waxed by Oliver McCall, had only fought over the hill heavyweights, and couldn't draw flies if he was covered in ****. Holyfield in his prime would have easily beat the up and coming Lewis, I think his fights with Bowe prove as much since Bowe was bigger, stronger, tougher, and beat many of the same guys Lewis did but beat those same guys when they were much better earlier on.

    And again I'll remind you that while Vitali may have been winning on the scorecards, his face looked like ground round and he LOST because of it, so I wouldn't go touting that like some badge of honor to wear either. An out of shape Lennox Lewis wrecked his face, and had Lewis agreed to a rematch and taken him seriously it's very likely that he would have beat Vitali again.

    And that was when Ray Mercer was one of the best heavyweights in boxing. Wlad fought him 7 years later when he was, once again, well past his prime. You act like he beat Mercer at the top of his game which he clearly didn't, he beat him at the end of it, and once again if he's worth a ****, he very well should have.

    That's why he put Bean on the ****ing mat in that fight too right??? Because he was struggling to beat him??? Give me a ****ing break.

    Once again, Vitali fought this guy YEARS after Holyfield (4 to be exact), when the guy was well past his prime.

    First of all, you need to get your ****ing head right and put yourself in check talking about Riddick Bowe like that. Like Holyfield, and as a matter of fact WITH Holyfield, he fought ****ing WARS in the ring you stupid *******. How dare you call that man a bum after what he accomplished. When he fought Golota he wasn't the same fighter by a long shot. The battles with Holyfield left him a shadow of his former self, he was nowhere near the condition he needed to be in for the first Golota fight, and in the second one it was confirmed after he got back in shape but failed to perform just how much he left in the ring with Holyfield.

    You need to get your facts straight too about Golota getting "KTFO" by 4 Klitschko victims. Firstly, I've already corrected you on Lewis, Brewster fought him almost 10 years after the Bowe and Lewis fights, Adamek got to him in 2009 WAAAAAY past his prime(he probably just needed the paycheck), and Ray Austin fought him right before Adamek which means he was just as over the hill, so what point were you making again??? And what significance did any of those fights have??? Absolutely NONE.

    Holyfield was far more than a decent fighter, he was a once in a lifetime fighter and a legend before he even moved up to heavyweight to cement his legacy even further. In his prime, he may have had trouble with either Klitschko, but the warrior within that man would have seen him beat them no doubt. They don't have the heart or guts that HE or BOWE displayed in their fights, or the heart and guts Holyfield is STILL displaying as he fights on into his late 40's. If they would have had to fight him or Bowe in their primes, BOTH Klitschko's would likely be knocked out. They've never faced guys nearly as good as Holyfield or Bowe, what makes you seriously think that against better competition like that, they would stand any chance??? You're ****ing delusional that's why.

    This thread was about Riddick Bowe, and anyone that dares try to say he was an overrated bum doesn't know **** from Shinola.
     
  10. FilipMNE

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    :lol: If they would win it would be their hardest fight!!! Apart from Vitalis loss to Lewis, and he would be very dangerous for Wlad...
     
  11. Hands of Iron

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  13. RUSKULL

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    Bowe had a good jab, nice combos, great power & a solid chin.

    He was dumb as a stump in ring smarts though, he tended to fight down to the level of his competition. He'd abandon the jab & slug it out with sluggers relying on his chin to bail him out.

    He's way over rated on this site for both accomplishments & level of competition he fought. He blantantly ducked Lennox Lewis when both were at or near their peaks and as a boxing fan that's hard to forgive. Somehow he managed to avoid all the best fighters of his time with the exception of Holyfield who was much smaller than him & he still managed to lose a fight to the warrior.

    People here have selective memory I swear. :yep
     
  14. CubanHeel

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    Two things Bowe will be remembered most for is his shameless duclking of Lennox Lewis and his absolute thrashing at the hands of Andrew Golota, twice.
    Bowe an ATG?:lol::rofl:lol::rofl
     
  15. MrMagic

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    Good to know that a mere bum has a more career defining win than both the Klitshcko brothers put together.