Is Ali's Power overlooked?

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  1. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    :deali agree with all this...and I'd like to tie a point into this discussion...that if Ali was such a great puncher, then Joe Frazier indeed had a granite chin.
     
  2. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    This is true too.
     
  3. guilalah

    guilalah Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Wouldn't call Ali a big puncher, but if an opponent gassed out on him --even an opponent with a good/great chin -- he could put it together for a KO or stoppage. To finish against Ali, stamina was probably a bigger factor than chin.
     
  4. He was a big strong man and his shots were so accurate and quick...right to the chin!
     
  5. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well,Joe's chin WAS pretty solid. Only George Foreman could stop him,in his time in the ring.
     
  6. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    If you put full power into a shot you are more open for a counter. Clearly he put defense as a higher priority than koIng opponents.
     
  7. FastHands(beeb)

    FastHands(beeb) Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The above is a truth that too many find unpalatable. For example, all we ever hear these days is "Norton didn't like punchers"...but, if Ali was such a puncher, as some seem to be claiming, how did Norton go 39 rounds with him?

    Revisionist nonsense, imo.
     
  8. groove

    groove Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yeah really quite surprised about the **** frazier gets on here in regards to his chin. let's hear them talk that same **** about joe louis.
     
  9. FAT_TONEY

    FAT_TONEY Active Member Full Member

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    Let's just say he wasn't a big powerpuncher but not featherfisted either. He was a real HW with average power, and we all know that a real HW with average power can bang and hurt any man. Plus his punches were accurate.
     
  10. 1899sharkey

    1899sharkey Boxings golden age Full Member

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    Id give him a five. Foreman fell from exhaustion and some quick but not devastating punches.
     
  11. HMSTempleGarden

    HMSTempleGarden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali also had issues with his hands.
     
  12. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Power can't help but be roped into effectiveness because power counts for nothing if it doesn't land. Academic stuff.

    As such Ali was a decent puncher; when compelled to do so. His finishing abilities weren't half bad. Those uppercuts on Frazier in FOTC and the right that finished off Foreman were cracking blows that anyone would do well to suffer.

    Again, the accuracy of them can't help but be roped into that cumbersome 'power' category.
     
  13. Senor Pepe'

    Senor Pepe' Boxing Junkie banned

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    Question.

    Is Ali's Power Overlooked ?

    Yes

    It is overlooked, because he was a stylish-boxer first and foremost.

    If you go back and read all the boxing magazine articles from the early 60's, most of his opponents stated that his punches started to hurt after time during the fight.

    Charlie Powell had stated, that the first punches from Cassius Clay were that of
    an average punching heavyweight, but as the fight wore on, they started to hurt.
     
  14. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    He could definitely hit and cracked more granite chins than most fighters (Liston, Bonavena, Foreman).
     
  15. Senor Pepe'

    Senor Pepe' Boxing Junkie banned

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    McG,,,,,,

    I don't think the Knock Outs over Foreman and Bonavena were a result of
    Ali's power.

    More of exhaustion on the opponents, and an accumulation of punches
    absorbed.

    The Liston fights ????