Bernard Hopkins or Floyd Mayweather, who has a better resume?

ok, you have made a well thought out point. I just have to admit that I think floyd is the superior fighter. i dont really even understand how people can compare hopkins to floyd. to different categories in terms of skill. however, i am voting for hopkins bc i like him better. I am biased. **** flloyd

 

So you're seriously putting a guy who beat him twice on his "resume" as a win? Can't tell if you're being serious?

 

Both are great, my recent dislike for Hopkins blinds my judgement a little

Hopkins has had more fights way more title fights fought until a much older age

fought some real legends

Floyd isnt bad either i cant really give a great answer

 

There's really nothing else to be said...good post.

 

I will answer this question on May 6,2012

 

My point in mentioning such fighters is to show his divisional dominance; there was nobody he didn't fight at middleweight, and he left no doubts as to who the man was at the weight, which is something Floyd never accomplished, and that doesn't even count his LHW run; people are mentioning Hernandez and Chavez has solid wins in his run at the lower weights, and they're definitely comparable to the likes of Mercado, Ornelas, etc., who were in the top 5-10 of the division at the time. And in terms of that Calzaghe resume nonsense, I don't ascribe to that, so you can't say it's bias against Floyd, when I rate Hopkins above Manny as well. I'm sure other polls will view Hopkins favorably as well.

Except that many fans in both fights, particularly from the second, were dissatisfied with the results, and the boxing world from commentators to journalists to promoters recognize that it was a close and controversial fight. On my cards, Hopkins won both, and that's how I'm going to judge him in terms of those fights. Why do you struggle with the concept of a subjective judgment?

 

You guys must not have got the memo

Mayweather beat his undefeated UK whiteboy. Hopkins didn't.

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Bhop has the better resume and it's quite a big margin. and how did floyd become a 6 division champion?

 

bhop didn't duck anyone.

 

That doesn't mean he has a better resume. Wlad has cleaned out HW. Does he have a better resume than Mayweather? I don't see how cleaning out a division full of mediocre fighters holds more weight than beating better fighters at higher weights.

At LHW Hopkins has Tarver, Wright, Pavlik, Ornelas, Shot Jones, and Pascal. Now let's Compare that to Floyd's WW run, which everyone says is terrible. I'd rank the Mosley win over the Tarver win. Both fighters were in their late 30's, were ranked 1 or 2 in the division, and had a claim to the lineal title. Mosley though was ranked number 3 p4p. I'd rank the Marquez win over Wright. I'd rank the Hatton win over Pavlik. The Baldo win ranks ahead of Ornelas, the Mitchell win ranks ahead of Shot Jones. Both the Ortiz and Judah wins are on par with the Pascal win. How is Hopkins coming out ahead?

 

How?

 

name me a floyd win which is greater than trinidad? never mind that he fought guys like roy jones, winky, oscar, pavlik, johnson, pascal, dawson in their top form. so how does floyd's resume top or even get close to that?

 

The consistency matters, which is why Joe Louis is often ranked higher than Ali despite having less publicly lauded opponents on his resume.

I wouldn't rank the Mosley win over the Tarver win, because Tarver was fighting more consistently and had not shown the same signs of aging within his last 5 bouts. Tarver also had a good amount of size on him, and Hopkins owned him regardless. But they are comparable I suppose.

I would never rank the Marquez win over the Wright win, as he was completely untested at the weight and came in with every physical disadvantage.

Judah and Ortiz are on par with Pascal, but not with Pavlik, not with Taylor who on my cards Hopkins beat, not with Trinidad who had adjusted to the weight great after his destruction of Joppy. Those two don't even come close to Glen Johnson. You'll have a better chance citing Corrales, Castillo, and DLH at 154. But still, for me those 3 don't carry the day for Floyd in comparison to who Hopkins was able to beat in their prime when past his own best.

 

neither did glen johnson what's your point?

 

You're showing off your ignorance. First off, his fight against Dawson was a NC. When talking resumes, you can only count wins. You wouldn't list a college that you were rejected from on your job resume, would you? Second, you're claiming Winky, and Roy Jones were in top form when he beat them. That's not the case. Roy was beyond shot(don't even bother bringing up the fight he lost to Jones. Again a guy can't build up his resume with losing efforts). Winky was on the slide, and was moving up 2 divisions. How is that better than Mayweather beating Marquez? How is Hopkins beating Oscar MW better than Mayweather moving up and beating him at LMW? How is beating Pavlik better than beating Hatton? And Glen Johnson is a journeymen fighter who's record is actually around .500 since fighting Hopkins. He's a good, solid fighter, that's it. That win obviously doesn't compare to a plethora of Mayweather wins.