How I would prepare Cotto to fight Mayweather. (Technical thread)

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  1. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Honestly, I hope Mayweather is the aggressor because then it will be a competitive fight.

    If Mayweather keeps the fight in the center of the ring, then he'll probably win by a wide decision.
     
  2. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    When the fight was first mooted, back in 08 at WW then Cotto was undoubtedly stronger than Mayweather. If you look at Mayweather since he returned, he is bigger up top. I think he's adapted his body to compensate for the loss of mobility in his legs, he's a very smart fighter and a just as smart athlete. He was stronger than Mosley, and not really out muscled by Ortiz who was about 16 pounds bigger. I think Floyd is stronger than Cotto now, but he wasn't in 08. Then again, I can be wrong :thumbsup
     
  3. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    What would you do for Cotto(e)'s stamina seeing as he has a history of fading. Before anyone says Mayweather isn't a volume puncher, remember many of his opponents have ended up getting tired regardless.
     
  4. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Altitude.

    He doesn't posses natrual fluidity, he looks like he has to think and proccess each punch and movement and then force it through, I think that's why he gets tired. I see no way to fix it, so he'll need to learn to work with it.
     
  5. maintain a strong jab, go to the body. throw right hooks and right hands.
     
  6. I1T2BOX

    I1T2BOX Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac is not a one dimensional fighter and started countering the jab consistently only after he had him hurt. Shane looked gassed after the 4th round, and shut down his offense because he just didnt know what to do. Now they are years and weight classes away from those fights, Miguel became the mover and Floyd the stalker. This is what makes this fight interesting to me.
     
  7. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    :yep
     
  8. PityTheFool

    PityTheFool Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Perhaps your finest post thus far mate.Bravo indeed.:deal
    Poster of the year could be within reach...
    A great gameplan,alas I don't see it coming to fruition.I think Floyd may decide to switch between aggressor and defensive modes at will.
     
  9. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A couple of things I noted about Floyd:


    He (1) is definitely stronger than Cotto, and he (2) has much better pop in his punches than people give him credit for.


    This leads me to believe that he wil indeed be the aggressor. While his footspeed has waned slightly, his handspeed, reflexes, upper-body movement and strength are better than ever. He will apply pressure like no other fighter Cotto has faced - In a way that keeps the fight just inside the range that Cotto finds comfortable, and cause Miguel to think too hard about what's coming next.


    While Cotto has a good jab, the longer and rangier Floyd will be more than capable of using his defensive superiority to neutralize it.


    Floyd has enough pop in his punches to seriously hurt Cotto, whose chin isn't anything close to granite. And when the going gets tough, Cotto isn't exactly the most strong-willed fighter in the world. Once Floyd catches him a few times trying to get off that jab, he is mentally toast, like he was in the Pac fight.


    The other thing that still concerns me about Cotto is that he still does that amateurish toe tap just before firing off his jab. Pac realized this and used it to beat him to the punch. Floyd (with an even better reach and even better one-punch speed) will downright slice Miguel's face every time he makes this egregious error.
     
  10. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ya'll are crazy.

    If anything, if Cotto decides to run or box, at the MOST, Floyd should do what Wlad did to Haye.

    He needs to be cautious as hell, keep the fight in the middle of the ring, apply slow and steady pressure, don't overcommit, and keep his range.

    That's about the most pressure he needs to put on Cotto.

    There is no NEED for Mayweather to engage Cotto and get into foolish exchanges.

    It's just stupid. Cotto is not some bum.

    Mayweather doesn't have the workrate of Margarito, or the explosiveness as Pac.

    It's just not a smart fight for Mayweather to press the fight against Cotto. Like I said, keep it in the center of the ring, and at the MOST, press it with extreme caution.

    Don't overcommit to anything, and don't do anything stupid.

    And honestly, anything about Mayweather losing his legs is pure speculation at this point. His legs looked fine against Marquez and that wasn't too long ago.
     
  11. Leon

    Leon The Artful Dodger Full Member

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    Isn't that what he did against Mosley and Ortiz? Cautiously apply pressure? None of us are saying he'll go force brawls and exchanges
     
  12. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Applying pressure doesn't necessarily mean overcommiting. The same way Floyd has shown himself to be arguably the best defensive fighter ever, he can show him self to be one of the best at applying smart pressure, while maintaining that stellar defense.


    He did it against Shane, even in the second round after getting rocked. What did he do? He held on, composed himself, got his legs together, and started applying pressure to Shane by the end of the round....
     
  13. Heavy Handed

    Heavy Handed I keep planets in orbit Full Member

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    No, people are just saying he's gonna walk through Cotto and knock him out before 10. :nut
     
  14. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The wildcard here, is Cotto's mental state after he's just beaten Margarito. I think we'll see the very best of Miguel Cotto on May 5th.
     
  15. SJS19

    SJS19 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thankyou Sir, quite a jump to go from talking about how I'd get Cotto to fight Floyd, to trying to explain to an 11 year old why he should move to the side as he punches :lol:

    I need to hurry up and have a son, then I can live my dreams through him :yep

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