Did Roy Jones start losing at LHW when his competition stepped up?

Ah where to begin with this rubbish :

Here is the line of champions before your hero DM lost to Julio Gonzalez !

*Jack Root (1903)
George Gardner (1903)
Bob Fitzsimmons (1903-1905)
Philadelphia Jack O'Brien (1905, never defended)
*Jack Dillon (1914-1916)
Battling Levinsky (1916-1920)
Georges Carpentier (1920-1922)
Battling Siki (1922-1923)
Mike McTigue (1923-1925)
Paul Berlenbach (1925-1926)
Jack Delaney (1926-1927, never defended)
*Tommy Loughran (1927, vacated title 1929)
*Maxie Rosenbloom (1932-1934)
Bob Olin (1934-1935)
John Henry Lewis (1935 to Jun 1939, retires)
*Billy Conn (1939 vacates title May 1941)
*Gus Lesnevich (1941-1948
Freddie Mills (1948-1950)
Joey Maxim (1950-1952)
Archie Moore (1952-1962)
*Harold Johnson (1962-1963)
Willie Pastrano (1963-1965)
Jose Torres (1965-1966)
Dick Tiger (1966-1968
Bob Foster (1968, retired September 16, 1974)
*Michael Spinks (1983-Sep. 1985, vacates title).
*Virgil Hill (1996 - 1997)
Dariusz Michalczewski (1997 to present)



The guys with STARS by thier names were AWARDED the title.


Not every lineal title was won in the ring Genius !Not only do I understand it I know more of the history ..Your schooling who now ?

Only beatdowns you ever given were to your ex boyfriends !

Hill and Maske picked up those trinkets and fought for unification the reason it was for the lineal title was because one they were Spinks belts and 2 they were the # 1 and 2 Lt heavies oh wait Once again I already pointed that out but yet you try to bring this up like you know something ...Its OK you could plagerize I don't mind :good


And last I checked Johnson defended the belt twice after he took the Ibf off of one of DM's mando's ..You sure you been watching boxing ? Because last I checked your not a paper champ if you have 2 defenses but some how that doesn't get through your skull, Thats funny ! Guess Spinks was a paper champ too since he never beat Foster and the belts changed hands 5 times before he unified them ..Your in no position to call anyone dumb when you greatly lack COMMON SENSE !


It's been fun watching people like you try to sound smart ..But the lies have to stop .. My facts are what's really irrefutable! :hi: Im sure i'll get more twats paper champs responses with the occasional groupies chiming in but I will pick this up later ..You have already failed this class time for you to go back a grade !

 

Imp, I have to hand it to you. Destroying a poster and his alt is quite ****ing embarrassing, lmfao!

 

Joe boxer got put on ***** street ^^^

 

Thank you sir ,Had to do it for the sake of boxing I love this sport but the disrespect from clowns like this has too stop ..

 

:rofl

Dont know what you was watching banga I always knew joe boxer was a hypejob carrying a glass jaw that would be shattered once he stepped up his competition.

And Imperial handed a possible career ending schooling on joe boxer similar to bhop pavlik.

 

wtf are you two spastics babbling on about? I've completely destroyed Imperial1 on the Jones-DM Lineal debate, and I'll continue to completely school him.

Imperial1 STILL doesn't understand what I've painfully spelled out, and has just proved himself wrong yet again with his own ****ing argument. Clearly you two clowns have no idea about the history of this sport.

Watch and learn, ******s.

 

No they weren't, you complete and utter drooling spastic. They won it the EXACT same way Hill, Maske, & DM did. IN THE RING AFTER THE CHAMPION LEFT THE DIVISION OR RETIRED, backing up EVERYTHING I've said and proving you wrong yet again. You dumb, lying cretin. Your brain must be the size of one of Jones' roid shrunken testicles. It's all spelled out for you yet again;

Jack Root (1903)
George Gardner (1903)
Bob Fitzsimmons (1903-1905)
Philadelphia Jack O'Brien (1905, never defended tite, moved up to heavyweight to challenge heavyweight champion Tommy Burns, thus VACATING THE TITLE. Jack Dillon became champion with his wins over Hugo Kelly, Levinsky , and Moha.)

Jack Dillon (1914-1916)
Battling Levinsky (1916-1920)
Georges Carpentier (1920-1922)
Battling Siki (1922-1923)
Mike McTigue (1923-1925)
Paul Berlenbach (1925-1926)
Jack Delaney (1926-1927, never defended title, moved up to heavyweight.)
Tommy Loughran (1927, vacated title 1929, moved up to heavyweight.)

The New York Commission named Jimmy Slattery as Champ following his victory over Lou Scozza in Feb. 1930. Maxie Rosenbloom beat Slattery and was generally recognized as champ by all but the NBA, who named George Nichols in Mar. 1932. Nichols lost to Lou Scozza, and Rosenbloom defeated Scozza in July 1932 for the undisputed title.

Maxie Rosenbloom (1932-1934)
Bob Olin (1934-1935)
John Henry Lewis (1935 to Jun 1939, retires)

Tiger Jack Fox won the NYS version, then lost to Melio Bettina. The NBA then agreed with the NYS Commission that they would recognize the winner of Bettina and Billy Conn as undisputed champion. Conn won.

Billy Conn (1939 vacates title May 1941, COS HE MOVED UP TO HEAVYWEIGHT LIKE THE OTHERs TO CHALLENEGE THE HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION YOU THICK *******)
Gus Lesnevich (1941-1948)
Freddie Mills (1948-1950)
Joey Maxim (1950-1952)
Archie Moore (1952-1962)

Moore was stripped by various organizations when he moved up to heavyweight, and ultimately gives up the title. Harold Johnson beat Doug Jones for the unndisputed title.

Harold Johnson (1962-1963)
Willie Pastrano (1963-1965)
Jose Torres (1965-1966)
Dick Tiger (1966-1968)
Bob Foster (1968, retired September 16, 1974)

Claimants following Foster's retirement included John Conteh, Victor Galindez, Miguel Angel Cuello, Mate Parlov, Marvin Johnson, Mike Rossman, Matthew Saad Muhammad, Eddie Mustafa Muhammad, and Dwight Braxton, who then changed his name to Dwight Qawi (1981-1983). Michael Spinks defeated Eddie Mustafa in July 1981 for the WBA title, Braxton defeated Matthew Saad, for the WBC title in December 1981. Qawi lost a 15-round decision to Spinks in Mar. 1983 for the undisputed title

Michael Spinks (1983-Sep. 1985, vacates title).
Virgil Hill (1996 - 1997)
Dariusz Michalczewski (1997-2003)

Yes it was, you thick down syndrome suffering window licking ****. I keep spelling out how, yet you STILL can't understand it. I'm effortlessly schooling you, yet again. It's becoming embarrassing.

No, you've been thoroughly beat down, exposed and destroyed.

No, then weren't Spinks' belts, because he relinquished those titles when he left the division to move up to heavyweight to challenge the heavyweight champion like many of the light heavyweight champions before him.

OWNED AGAIN.

Yes you are still a paper champion. Who the **** has been telling you this nonsense? Reggie Johnson's title was a paper belt which rightfully belonged to DM. You have no idea what you're talking about.

No, as Foster relinquished the title to move up to heavyweight etc. You really should be getting it by now.

Nonsensical hypocrisy. You not only lack common sense, but a simple understanding of basic facts. A CHILD could understand what you're struggling to grasp here.

You've been brutally destroyed, and exposed as a delusional liar who has absolutely no idea what he's talking about. You lose. Badly. Again. I'll be back later to destroy whatever clueless, **** weak answer you have.

 

someone stick a fork in roid fanboy imperial . . . . . . . . . . he's done :vonnecunt

 

Ok Head, nice comeback. Imp, this is getting interesting! He googled the info, but looks spot on. Your turn. And watch who you call ****** Joe, Headgiver or whatever the **** your name is.

 

I dont really need to interfere because Imperial put a rough beating on your ass, while single handily owning the Team Elite and chinchecker organisations. I thought I reached the highest possible level in the art of pwnage but I have realised I still got a lot to learn.

But you got way more to learn man, you been coming up with some dumb **** throughout your ESB career.

You think I give a toss about this lineal bull****. The linear champ is created by some money making organisations, who just like me are just ordinary fans of the sport but have money making agendas. So **** all these organisations especially the WBC.

This is the lineal champ lineage according to you:-

Virgill Hill SD12 Henry Maske (Mid 90's)

DM UD12 Virgil Hill (June 1997 - Oct 2003)
...... So now DM is the division king.

Gonzales SD12 DM (Oct 2003 - Jan 2004)
.....So now you going to accept Gonzales as the division king? wait it aint over yet.

Erdei UD12 Gonzales (Jan 2004 - Jan 2009)
....So now you going to accept Zsolt Erdei as the division king?

Zsolt Erdei then moves up in weight to CW hence vacating the lineal championship.

Jurgen Braehmer picks up Zsolt Erdei's vacated title
- And The New Team Elite LHW champion of the World

Nathan Cleverly takes over as the WBO LHW champ


atsch you think I should accept that **** man.

You considered Gonzales to be the division king between Oct 2003 - Jan 2004 over Roy Jones Jr:dead

You considered Zsolt Erdei to be the division king between Jan 2004 - Jan 2009 over, Roy Jones Jr, Antonio Tarver, Glen Johnson, Bernard Hopkins, Joe Calzaghe, Chad Dawson and Jean pascal

And now you think Nathan Cleverly is the division king over Bernard Hopkins **** outta here boy, Imperial owned your ass.

Let me tell you my straight up no bull**** criteria. I dont get brainwashed by these organisations making there own agendas, they are fans like me, but they have money making motives in the process.

I dont need to go on boxrec and WBO/IBF/Ring/WBC/WBA rankings to decide who the division king is, I unlike you and the chinchecking bitches watch boxing and come to a conclusion myself.

While DM did defeat the man in Virgil Hill, by UD, and RJJ knocked out the dethroned king in less than 5 rounds. It only made sense that RJJ and DM get it on in the ring, but they didnt, it became a Joe Calzaghe vs Svenn Ottke kind of situation.

- RJJ then dominates his opposition harder and more convincingly than DM does.
- RJJ then gets recognised as the division king by the WBC, WBA, IBF, NBA, WBF, The Ring, IBA, IBO, and the majority of boxing fans as well as independent ranking systems.
- DM is just recognised as the division king by the WBO, and the lineal champion policing ***gots

And you think me, a boxing wise man slash expert aka The most feared man on ESB, is going to think DM is the best LHW in the world and not RJJ. atsch **** outta here boy.

some man need to lay of the boxrec and some of you need to jump of this lineal bull**** and begin watching boxing instead of reading these money making organisations rankings.

The ranking system I probably respect the most is the ESB rankings which you can view here, but obviously my ranking system is more accurate.

 

The stamina of certain posters are flat out bizarre.

 

Of course I'm spot on. Team Elite are fully aware of the history of the true, legitimate world light heavyweight championship.

That spastic Imperial1 just posts a relevant link to the discussion, which, clearly unaware to him, proves him wrong and goes completely against his argument. He then claims he's schooled everyone :nut.

You shouldn't have taken that idiot's side, but it's good that you've realized you were wrong on this.

I'll be back in a bit to completely destroy 'realsouja' and that pitiful response of his above.

 

You dont need to be back in a bit because we all know you on ***** street and been talking punch drunk for the last few pages from the Imperial onslaught.

So take some time off son, go back to the drawing board, try holding your own in sparring against bailey or HEADBANGER, comeback later have a easy tune up against someone like Lance_Uppercut and work your way back into a rematch Vs Imperial, because at the moment he may end up giving you a career ending type of beating similar to Calzaghe vs Lacy.

 

You absolute ****ing clown. I've thoroughly schooled and humiliated Imperial1 on this subject. My facts are irrefutable. History backs up everything I've said.

Imperial1 is a legit ****** with no idea what he's on about. If you think his embarrasingly ignorant child-like posts are the highest art of ownage, you're even more of a mentally stunted cretin than he is. Moron.

Even 'Whitdatass', who initially agreed with Imperial1, sees that I've completely owned and schooled Imperial1. You know it, but you're not man enough to admit you're wrong. ****ing pillock.

No, you ****ing idiot. The Lineal champion has always been recognized as the true, legitimate world champion going back over 100 years. What a pathetic claim. You ignorant dunce.

Cleverly ends up as the division's king???? WTF are you babbling on about now??? You absolute ****ing SPASTIC! LOL @ you. Like that window licker Imperial1, you still don't even understand how the **** the Lineal championship works.

When Erdei moved up, Dawson, Pascal, & Hopkins obviously created the new Lineage.

Imperial1 got completely schooled, I and now I'm *****-slapping you, too. You spastics are so far behind in the race you actually think you're winning.

You are clearly no expert, as you have just exposed yourself as not even understanding how the ****ing Lineal championship even works.

Dm was the true, legit Lineal/WBA/WBO/IBF champion. All the historians recognized him as champion. HBO & The Ring fed the fans a bunch of bull****, and it looks like some of you actually fell for it.

The Ring went completely against their own policy when they just handed their belt to Jones. Even if they DIDN'T recognize DM as the world champion, to just hand Jones the belt after he defeated garbage man Glen Kelly is an absolute joke. Did DM not exist in their world??

As for 'feared'?? I'm cringing for you.

The Lineal title doesn't show up on boxrec. Epic fail.

Good for you.