brook vs Ortiz

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  1. Zain786

    Zain786 Member Full Member

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    who you got....got to go for Ortiz...too strong and has a killer instinct since the Berto fight....khan, Ortiz, berto, Alexander, mike Jones, Bradley, peterson all at 147....good times indeed!!
     
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  2. miguel2010

    miguel2010 His hands are his weapons Full Member

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    Go for whoever got the straps.
     
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    Ortiz is a different animal, he can hurt Brook/Khan. Once he unloads and gets his combinations together he is devastating. Brook would need to keep Ortiz at arms length if he wants to give himself the slightest of chance.
     
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    Brook stops Ortiz late.
     
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    CamR21 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Brook beats Ortiz one good win made him look better than he actually is
     
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  6. miguel2010

    miguel2010 His hands are his weapons Full Member

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    Yeah, Ortiz is weak mentally, and the Floyd fight has tipped him over the edge, any kind of shutout in the first few rounds will have him fouling and trying headbutts or worse IMO.

    Loose cannon, you cant be successful in boxing with a weak mind.
     
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  7. LP_1985

    LP_1985 JMM beat Pac-Man 3 Times Full Member

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    Ortiz will tear him a new 1, Brook ain't ready for this step up yet IMO
     
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  8. miguel2010

    miguel2010 His hands are his weapons Full Member

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    No bias! ???

    :lol:
     
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  9. LP_1985

    LP_1985 JMM beat Pac-Man 3 Times Full Member

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    No mate, gone right off Ortiz after that cowardly headbutt, just think the Brook hype train needs to slow down and take a couple more stops before going in with some1 like Ortiz. Brook can't step up the pace and take advantage of Ortiz weaknesses, he couldn't do it against the gallant Matty Hatton no way he can discourage Ortiz, he would just bulldoze through him
     
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  10. miguel2010

    miguel2010 His hands are his weapons Full Member

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    I would say Hatton is a tougher person mentally and physically and Kell had him on ***** street.....Yeah his finishing isnt great as yet, they have sorted out the head up thing a bit so with any luck they can polish up on the finishing.

    I just see Brook frustrating Ortiz, but I would be very wary of Ortiz's power, Kells chin hasnt really been questioned yet.
     
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    Well, when Hatton throw the right hand and left hook, it landed more often than not. If Brook is that sloppy against Ortiz, he will be knocked cold
     
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  12. Thomas!!

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    Brooks boxing skills are far superior to Ortiz. Brook stops Ortiz late. no blueprint
     
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  13. miguel2010

    miguel2010 His hands are his weapons Full Member

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    He did load up a few times in that one round, I remember Kell eased back a bit and thats the only round I gave to Matty.

    Yeah if he dont tighten up and gets in with Ortiz then that chin is gonna get a severe testing!
     
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    LP_1985 JMM beat Pac-Man 3 Times Full Member

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    I think Ortiz will come back with a bang, he's an odd 1 that goes from 1 extreme to the other, i just can't see anything that Kell has done to date that will stop Ortiz
     
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  15. miguel2010

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    Mayweather peppered him and changed his mindset, i think Brook can do the same, blueprint is there for him mate.

    I can see what you say about Ortiz being chalk and cheese, if he is still standing he is dangerous.

    Nice rap there and i never intended it! ha
     
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