Props to Pac for taking the more dangerous fight

Do you seriously think Cotto @ 154 would fight the same fight he did against Pac the first time? I make a lot of jokes about Cotto, but one thing he is very capable of, is changing his plan of action in a rematch, i.e. Margarito II.

Ortiz is a southpaw which negates a lot of what Pac does with his straight left, plus he's bigger and stronger than any of Pac's latest opponents. Sure he would probably get dropped, but he would probably drop Pacquiao as well, as a matter of fact, it's guaranteed. Ortiz has the stamina, athleticism and tenacity to keep up with Pacquiao, plus he loves to bang. It's all he knows. Against a pure boxer, he's severely hampered, but against an offensive fighter like Pac, he'd be completely comfortable.

Khan could fight him, and if Pac wasn't possibly retiring after this next fight, it would be a probable match up regardless of how "close" they are. But I doubt Khan gets past Peterson. :yep

Bradley isn't an "ultimate test", that's just ******* hyperbole. He's a tough fight cause of his style and his confidence, but don't blow this **** out of proportion.

So go on with your "absolute nonsense" bull****.

 

This is why you ******s were picking Pac to knock Marquez out within 4 rounds cause you don't know **** about how styles match up.

Stop trying to talk boxing Punani-no-gaga. :nono

 

So, at 154, Pac easily beats Canelo??

You're absolutely out of your brain. atsch

 

you're the one who doesn't know style's match-ups. ok find a post of mine where i said that pac would stop jmm withing 4 rounds. if i remmeber correctly, it was you *****s who are saying that pac would just steamroll on jmm.

so you are saying that ortiz would be more comfortable against offensive fighters than boxers? but maidana gave him hell and stopped him without any suckerpunch.

 

Pacturds are really feeling insecure . It's only a harder fight for Pac because Bradley isn't a punching bag. This is just an excuse thread in disguise for when Pac looks like **** again just because Bradley isn't a dead man which is the only way Pac can look good.

 

Cotto is definitely not even slight a dangerous fight right at this point.
Bradley may not be a big name for casual fans, but's he definitely a BIG test - more BIGGER than anyone else expect.

Props to Floyd for taking on a low risk - extremely high reward type of a fight.
This is any fighter's dream type of a fight

Props to Manny for taking on a high - extremely low reward type of a fight.
This is any fighter's hated type of a fight - real fans would win though

 

Of course Cotto will try and fight him differently. But let’s not pretend he’s a very capable rematch fighter (to the extent of beating Pac) just because he beat a one-eyed Margarito. He can still be gotten to very easily, and he still reacts negatively from it. It would be a repeat of the first, with him probably surviving instead of getting stopped.

And I can’t even be bothered addressing your Ortiz bit . Yeah, he really is bigger and stronger than Pac’s opponents (Margarito), isn’t he :roll:. And he really does struggle only against pure boxers (like Maidana :rofl), doesn’t he. Utter drivel.

Bradley, out of the available fighters at 140-147 (the weights where Pac fights), is the most challenging opponent. This is the same Bradley that sat at the top of 140 division, by the way. The same 140 division which consisted of Khan and Ortiz – two guys you think have a better shot than Bradley, and the same the two guys who failed to beat a man that he [Bradley] dominated. Yes, styles make fights and all, but common opponents can give an indication of the level certain fighters are at. And Bradley is currently best available.

 

i don't see how bradley can win...he doesn't have to power, and he would have to clearly win like 10+ rounds to get the nod from the judges

 

I wanted PBF V Serg and Pac V JMM.

I think PBF-Cotto is a good match-up, Cotto is the Champ at 154 and has regained a lot of confidence with win over the plaster master . . . arguably his best win.

Pac v Bradley is a pretty good match-up as well. I am not a big desert-storm fan and give him almost no chance because he does not have the power or style to cause Pac any issues. Still he is young hungry fighter in his prime and does not know how to lose. The question is can he make the adjustments to cause Pac Problems.

I would have loved to have seen Pac v JMM, Berto, Ortrees, . . . Bradley brings zero excitement to the table.

As for PBF I would have rather seen only a fight V Serg more. Cotto is a big name and a live dog.

I think the Number 1 JMW is more of a risk than the number 1 JWW. I think Cotto is better than Bradley and if they ever fought I would pick Cotto (because of size and experience).

So I think Cotto is a Bigger risk and a better fight. However, both guys are legit opposition

 

same with marquez, well marquez had a bit of punch but not enough to crack pac who has an iron chin for a small welter. Honestly its all pointless unless its floyd on the other corner, bradley is about the next threatening option out there after floyd or marquez. Lets just hope he retires because there really isn't anything else to do and all these mismatches and judges/politics is getting boring.

 

Punani, you try to pretend like you know what you're talking about, but you don't. :roll:

"You *****s"? I was one of the few saying it was gonna be another close fight with possible Marquez winning, when almost everyone was saying Marquez was gonna get waste. Check my post history you internet cafe junkie, it ain't hard to find.

Maidana gave him hell because he's a mental midget at times. You really think Maidana at 140 hits harder than Ber(toe) @ 147??!! God damn you're a silly twat and YDKSAB.

Ortiz crumbled mentally, not physically, but even with that, he still had Maidana on the deck several times.

 

its about time

 

You seriously overestimate Pacquiao's ability. Since the Cotto fight, it has been show twice how to nullify Pacquiao's aggression and output. You obviously give Cotto little to no credit to actually look at what has happened since their first bout and at the examples of Pacquiao's limitations and not capitalize on it. This is why you're a *******, you don't think logically.

Do you think Margaorito is

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stronger than Ortiz? Mind you, this is the same Margarito that was being bullied into the ropes and LMW by the small LMW Cotto. Say what you want about Ortiz, but he is one of the most physically strong individuals @ WW. Ortiz's dimensions are bigger than Margarito, his chest, back, legs, arms are all bigger than Margarito. You mistake height and length with actually being bigger. Ortiz only weighed 3 pounds less than what Margarito weighed in against Pacquiao and it was all muscle. The real difference is that he has this and isn't as slow as molasses.

So which is it, styles make fights? Or fighter A beats fighter B logic? You can't have it both ways genius. Bradley isn't an "ultimate test as you put it, he was the best out of a bad situation.

Khan most certainly has a better shot at beating Pac than Bradley, you're a fool if you think otherwise. Neither can fight inside, and Khan actually throws combos from mid to long range faster than Pac.
Ortiz has a better shot than Bradley because of his size advantage and the fact that he has knock out power. I don't see what you don't get. Most people are only giving Bradley a shot because he's a spoiler and makes fights ugly.

Your logic is seriously flawed. Against Peterson, Ortiz was out-boxed, barely hurt by the bombs that were landing on him and simply got outsmarted. That in zero way makes me think Bradley can beat Ortiz.

 

^^^ :-(

 

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