Froch says he has a better legacy then cazaghe

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  1. DOM5153

    DOM5153 They Cannot Run Forever Full Member

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    I was talking exclusive to Britian, but yes anywhere else in Europe and possibly America it would be pretty even i would have thought.:D
     
  2. haworths623

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    Don't know what The Cobra is on about but Super Joe is the GOAT. Here is the proof:

    Calzaghe is better then Sugar Ray Robinson because:

    Robinson was beaten by Joey Archer
    ...who was beaten by Emile Griffith
    ...who was beaten by Alan Minter
    ...who was beaten by Tony Sibson
    ...who was beaten by Frank Tate
    ...who was beaten by David Telesco
    ....who was beaten by Byron Mitchell
    ...who was beaten by....SUPER JOE!!!

    Calzaghe is better then Henry Armstrong because:

    Armstrong was beaten by Chester Slider
    who was beaten by Sammy Walker
    who was beaten by Alfredo Beezer
    who was beaten by Jose Edwin
    who was beaten by Ossie Marcano
    who was beaten by Frankie Olivera
    who was beaten by Bobby Cassidy
    who was beaten by Ramon Ranquello
    who was beaten by Arturo Diaz
    who was beaten by Vyacheslav Yakovlev
    who was beaten by Lionel Butler
    who was beaten by Daiman Wills
    who was beaten by Oliver McCall
    who was beaten by Cedric Boswell
    who was beaten by Jammel McCline
    who was beaten by Chris Arreola
    who was beaten by Tomasz Adamek
    who was beaten by Chad Dawson
    who was beaten by Jean Pascal
    who was beaten by Carl Froch
    who was beaten by Mikkel Kessler

    who was beaten by SUPER JOE!!!


    Calzaghe is better than Willie Pep because:

    Pep lost to Calvin Woodland
    who lost to Alfredo Marcano
    who lost to Art Hafey
    who lost to Danny Lopez
    who lost to Jorge Rodriguez
    who lost to Johnny De La Rosa
    who lost to Roberto Sierra
    who lost to Joel Casamayor
    who lost to Diego Corrales
    who lost to Joshua Clottey
    who lost to Carlos Manuel Baldomir
    who lost to Verron Forrest
    who lost to Sergio Mora
    who lost to Brian Vera
    who lost to Jaidon Codrington
    who lost to Sakio Bika
    who lost to.........................SUPER JOE!!

    Calzaghe is better than Joe Louis AND Muhammed Ali because:

    Joe Louis lost to Ezzard Charles
    who lost to Alvin Green
    who lost to Kirk Barrow
    who lost to Karl Mildenberger
    who lost to Henry Cooper
    who lost to Muhammad Ali
    who lost to Tevor Berbick
    who lost to Tony LaRosa
    who lost to Billy Zumbrun
    who lost to Mike Mollo
    who lost to Jammel McCline
    who was beaten by Chris Arreola
    who was beaten by Tomasz Adamek
    who was beaten by Chad Dawson
    who was beaten by Jean Pascal
    who lost to Bernard Hopkins
    who lost to SUPER JOE!

    Calzaghe is better than Harry Greb because:

    Greb lost to Tiger Flowers
    who lost to Leo Lomski
    who lost to Lee Ramage
    who lost to Bob Pastor
    who lost to Jimmy Bivins
    who lost to Ezzard Charles
    who lost to Alvin Green
    who lost to Kirk Barrow
    who lost to Karl Mildenberger
    who lost to Henry Cooper
    who lost to Muhammad Aliwho lost to Tevor Berbick
    who lost to Tony LaRosa
    who lost to Billy Zumbrun
    who lost to Mike Mollo
    who lost to Jammel McCline
    who was beaten by Chris Arreola
    who was beaten by Tomasz Adamek
    who was beaten by Chad Dawson
    who was beaten by Jean Pascal
    who lost to Bernard Hopkins
    who lost to SUPER JOE!

    Calzaghe is better than Benny Leonard because:

    Leonard lost to Jimmy McLarnin
    who lost to Tony Canzoneri
    who lost to Al 'Bummy' Davis
    who lost to Rocky Graziano
    who lost to Chuck Davey
    who lost to Vince Martinez
    who lost to Cecil Shorts
    who lost to Fate Davis
    who lost to Vernon Mason
    who lost to Clyde Washington
    who lost to Chuck Mince
    who lost to Jamie Thomas
    who lost to Paul Whittaker
    who lost to Randall Yonker
    who lost to Montell Griffin
    who lost to Glen Johnson
    who lost to Carl Froch
    who lost to Mikkel Kessler
    who lost to Super Joe

    Calzaghe is better than Robert Duran, Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Haggler and Tommy Hearns because:
    Duran lost to Hearns
    who lost to Haggler
    who lost to Leonard
    who lost to Terry Norris
    who lost to Laurent Boudouani
    who lost to Felix Trinadad
    who lost to Roy Jones Jr
    who lost to SUPER JOE

    :mj :mj :mj :mj :mj :mj :mj :mj :mj

     
  3. knockout artist

    knockout artist Boxing Addict banned

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    Are you serious? My point was that Froch got dominated by Ward, and Calzaghe was better than Ward. You even admit Calzaghe would win a wide decision against Froch, and no Carl wouldn't have his moments.
    In no way did I state Calzaghe and Ward are similar. I've probably seen more of Calzaghe, Froch and Ward than you have.

    You're a ****ing idiot :patsch You're posts would be better if you took the time to actually read what someone has written
     
  4. Samurai's Slice

    Samurai's Slice ESB Legend Full Member

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    I am not even gonna spend an hour listing the many, many reasons Calzaghe is better then Froch. :lol:
     
  5. realsoulja

    realsoulja Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Styles make fights. You need to comprehend this concept while you being schooled further now.

    Just because you think Calzaghe is better than Ward, dont mean Calzaghe would whoop Froch better than Ward did.

    Mosley > Margarito > Cotto > Mosley > Margarito > Cotto > Quintana > Paul Williams > Margarito < Mosley > Mayorga > Forrest > Mosley

    Calzaghe vs Froch would be alot closer than Ward vs Froch.

    1. Calzaghe wasnt a fighter who used to fight off the backfoot, but Ward fought Froch off the back foot. (If you think he did bring some examples of Calzaghe doing such against world class opposition)

    2. Calzaghe wasnt a fighter who used to fight in close range infighting, but Ward outmauled Froch on the inside. (If you think Calzaghe did, bring an example of Calzaghe outmauling a world class opponent.)

    You think Calzaghe was better than Ward so therefore would beat Froch more easily than Ward will.

    That logic is flawed.

    Ward beat Kessler more convincingly than Calzaghe did.
    George Foreman beat Frazier more convincingly than Ali did. (And Ali > Foreman)
    Mosley beat Margarito more convincingly than Cotto did. (Cotto beat Mosley)

    Point being Styles make fights.

    Calzaghe's style and Froch's style would compliment one another, both Froch and Calzaghe like to come forward and both like to stand their ground. Hence giving Froch a opportunity to do what he wants which is fight.

    Ward didnt give Froch that kind of opportunity. So Froch should find it easier vs Calzaghe than he did vs Ward, thus giving Froch his moments.


    You didnt state that, I never said you stated that. You stated some dumber ****, You stated.

    Calzaghe is better than Ward, so would beat Froch more convincingly than Ward did.

    I proved you to be wrong giving just a smalll minor examples of previous fights.

    No need to cry because you got proven wrong now.

    My point is this:-

    Froch would have a better chance vs Calzaghe than he would vs Ward. I am not saying Ward is better than Calzaghe here, im just saying Calzaghe's style is better for Froch than the negative style of Ward.
     
  6. godlikerich

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    lol a lot of time went in to this hilarity
     
  7. Ro.sTEFan

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    And how many did he win? Don't answer that....
     
  8. BoxingFanNo1

    BoxingFanNo1 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    BHop, Kessler, Eubank > Any Froch win.
     
  9. vnyc

    vnyc Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Froch fought better opponents and has a better resume ,he's a real deal .Calzaghe has fought nothing but bums.
     
  10. Snakefist

    Snakefist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Eubank was shot. Kessler is a good win. BHop win... hmm it's debatable honestly (because he was NOT in his prime), but seeing what BHOP did to Pavlik afterwards you have to say he was still pretty good, and what he did after Pavlik with Pascal. I don't rank the Eubank win by any stretch of the imagination. Kessler a good win though.

    Honestly Froch has been in with the better opposition and a over all better win list. It doesn't mean his legacy is better than Calzaghe's though lol -- Froch would've never been able to come close to beating BHOP and would've got embarrassingly out-boxed, considering what Ward did.

    Ward has more skills than Calzaghe and I think he will go on to have a better Legacy, as it is really early in his career, he beat Kessler better and beat Froch easy. Unlike Calzaghe who fought in obscurity for his whole prime defending a worthless belt.

    Calzaghe's resume is not very great.
     
  11. Lance_Uppercut

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    Legacy isn't defined by facing bad opp for the majority of your career and finishing undefeated. Froch might be speaking a little out of his ass, but he's faced the beter opp, and win or lose, that means something.
     
  12. The Genius

    The Genius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is the problem: apparently Richie Woodhall is a bum, but Arthur Abraham is an elite 168 fighter.

    Most of Froch's wins go on to lose 6 months later.

    The impressive factor is Foch's back-to-back streak, which only happened because the unique Super Six. Although how he got made the IBF mandatory I will never know.
     
  13. The Genius

    The Genius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Surely other achievements should be taken into consideration.
     
  14. Ren

    Ren Active Member Full Member

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    Froch has faced the better oppostion over two years in his career, but his resume isnt better becaus Calzaghe was champ for 10 years.

    I mean, that two years is better than any time Calzaghe fought, but overall, average it out, and its the same average ability as Cal's opponents over the full ten years.

    I would add, however that I do respect Froch more these days, because hes a man who faced whoever regardless. Thats what sport, anysport should be about.
     
  15. the commentator

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    so all you need to do to be great is to fight good fighters regardless of whether or not you win those fights???? what a delusional ****er froch is....:verysad