**** Kirks ESB Championship 2012 ****

Hey everyone, back from the field. wow.

Alright,

So I just got done watching Kirkland vs Molina.

I know many will disagree, but I actually think the person that the ref robbed most that night was Kirkland, out of a legit stoppage win over one of the top fighters of his division.

Kirkland had Molina done for imo, and there was still 2 more rounds to go. I do think Kirkland would have stopped Molina, and the fact that he was able to wear Molina down like he did in spite of Molinas constant, and I mean constant, pushing, smothering, hugging, and hitting after breaks, has me not feeling so bad about this performence from James.

Was it a subpar performance? For sure. He was in with a guy who was fighting his ass off, while he himself seemed a little restrained compared to the Kirkland we are used to seeing.

Some thoughts

* The way Kirkland is treated and is trained, is good for a shooting star type of career, flashes in the pan, but it is bound to wear on a person mentally and physically, I hope Kirkland doesnt burn out soon.

* That could very well be in the top 3 worst refs Ive ever seen. He allowed Molina to literally run up to kirkland, push him to the ropes, and then hug him. Then I think in round 9 or so, Kirkland tries to say something about it and he tells Kirkland 'Sshh'. Then, again in round 9 I believe, he says break, and Molina hits Kirkland well after that.


I really think people shouldnt be too hard on Kirkland for this fight, its not the best fight to have to build his profile, and he underperformed, but lets look at it again from another angle.

- Everyone knew Molina was going to be a tough out for him. Kirkland needs work against good movers and counterpunchers, and Molina is one of the best fighters at the weightclass
- He was in there with a fighter that was doing everything he could just about to make the fight dirty, smothering Kirklands work, and downright cheating imo with the amount he pushed and held. Then there was the ref that allowed it. You put in a ref that doesnt allow Molina to do that constantly, its probable imo that Kirkland wears him down quicker.

Despite that, he still wore molina down

I dont think that should be overlooked. Molina came to fight his ass off, got James to fight his fight, made the fight dirty as hell, and still got worn down by Kirkland by round 10.

I dont think many fighters in the division would have Molina done in the way Kirkland did by that point if Molina is allowed to use the tactics he did this weekend.

So those are the positives Im taking away from that fight. The negative is much easier to see and much more prevalent. Kirkland showed many flaws, as usual, was getting outboxed and manhandled through big portions of the fight, and just didnt really look like the Kirkland we are used to for the most part until around 9 and 10.



Idk, its just IMO. I do understand where others are coming from though for the most part.


As for Morales vs Garcia, was suprised to see Morales have the kind of success he had, and I am so glad he did. However the end result was what I was unfortunatly expecting. I hope Morales retires, hes given us fans all we could want, and for himself, he can retire knowing he was one of the purest and best warriors on the planet. Im sure he could find a job that has to do with either commentating, boxing analyist on tv or whatever.

I have to say I am suprised, but was happy to see, Judah stop Paris. Judah shows that even still, after all his ups and downs and now adding on the years, hes still a fighter that if you are not on world level, he will work you. Which shows me that Judah is still close to being a world level fighter.

UPDATES - Ill do wager updates tonight, along with some other things, and I will collect all the picks.

I appreciate the patience you have shown this month guys, the updates will be up and out within the next few days (all of them)

:good

 

Wager updates on the way

- When I repost everyones picks, the moneys will be up to date

 

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3/27 – Suriyan Sor Rungvisai vs. Yota Sato – 12x3 WBC Super Flyweight Title
3/30 – Nkosinathi Joyi vs. Katsunari Takayama – 12x3 IBF Minimumweight Title
3/30 - Manuel Charr vs. Taras Bydenko - 12x3 WBC International Silver Heavyweight Title
3/30 – Henry Lundy vs. Dannie Williams – 10x3 NABF Lightweight Title (ESPN 2 FNF)
3/30 – Elvin Ayala vs. Hector Camacho Jr. – 10x3 WBC USNBC Middleweight Title (ESPN 2 FNF)
3/31 – Arthur Abraham vs. Piotr Wilczewski – 12x3 WBO European Super Middleweight Title
3/31 - Eduard Gutknecht vs. Tony Averlant - 12x3 EBU Light Heavyweight Title
3/31 - Mateusz Masternak vs. Felipe Romero - 10x3
3/31 - Hugo Ruiz vs. John Mark Apolinario - 12x3 Interim WBA Bantamweight Title
3/31 - Jorge Linares vs. Sergio Thompson - 10x3
3/31 - Al Sabaupan vs. Marvin Quintero - 12x3 IBF Lightweight Title Eliminator for #1

 

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4/1 – Alex Leapai vs. Kevin Johnson – 12x3 IBF Australasian Heavyweight Title
4/4 – Tomonobu Shimizu vs. Tepparith Singwancha – 12x3 WBA World Super Flyweight Title
4/4 – Koki Kameda vs. Nouldy Manakane – 12x3 WBA World Bantamweight Title
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4/6 – Takahiro Ao vs. Terdsak Kokietgym – 12x3 WBC Super Featherweight Title
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4/6 – Hozumi Hasegawa vs. Felipe Carlos Felix – 10x3
4/7 – Edgar Sosa vs. Wilbert Uicab – 12x3 WBC Silver Flyweight Title
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4/13 – Felix Sturm vs. Sebastian Zbik – 12x3 WBA Super World Middleweight Title
4/13 – Tony Bellew vs. Danny McIntosh – 12x3 BBBofC British Light Heavyweight Title (Sky Sports)
4/13 – Michael Katsidis vs. Albert Mensah – 10x3 (ESPN 2 FNF)
4/13 – Artemio Reyes vs. Alan Sanchez – 10x3 (ESPN 2 FNF)
4/14 – Ardin Diale vs. Mhar Jhun Macahilig – 12x3 GAB Flyweight Title
4/14 – Billi Facundo Godoy vs. Carlos Manuel Baldomir – 10x3 (TyC Sports)
4/14 – Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Serhiy Fedchenko – 12x3 Interim WBO Light Welterweight Title (HBO PPV)
4/14 – Brandon Rios vs. Richard Abril – 12x3 WBA World Lightweight Title (HBO PPV)
4/14 – Mike Alvarado vs. Mauricio Herrera – 10x3 (HBO PPV)
4/14 – Victor Terrazas vs. Simpiwe Vetyeka – 12x3 WBC Super Bantamweight Title Eliminator (Televisa)
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4/20 – Hassan N’Dam N’Jikam vs. Max Bursak – 12x3 Interim WBO Middleweight Title
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4/20 – Jermain Taylor vs. Caleb Traux – 10x3 (Showtime)
4/21 – Brian Viloria vs. Omar Nino Romero – 12x3 WBO Flyweight Title
4/21 - James DeGale vs. Cristian Sanavia - 12x3 EBU Super Middleweight Title
4/21 – Karoly Balzsay vs. Dimitri Sartison – 12x3 WBA World Super Middleweight Title
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4/28 – Jhonny Gonzalez vs. Elio Rojas – 12x3 WBC Featherweight Title (Televisa)
4/28 – Juan Carlos Salgado vs. Martin Honorio – 12x3 IBF Super Featherweight Title (Televisa)
4/28 – Moises Fuentes vs. Ivan Calderon – 12x3 WBO Minimumweight Title
4/28 – Bernard Hopkins vs. Chad Dawson II – 12x3 WBC Light Heavyweight Title (HBO)
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Hey BigBone, It sucks man, but Malden never confirmed the Kirkland fight against you. If it had been a flat wager that you accepted (meaning a fixed amount) and you were the first to pick it up it wouldnt matter if it was confirmed, but since the amount wasnt set and would have been needed to be confirmed from Malden if he was ok with wagering whatever amount it would have been, I cant accept it.

For the record for everyong from here on out with wagers.

If someone puts out a wager of a fixed amount, and you are the first to pick it up, then its automatic matchup.

If its a general bet of 'taking x to beat y' and someone accepts it, it then needs to be confirmed by both on the amount being wagered, to keep from bickering after the fact.

:good

 

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looking for challengers!

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FIGHTS WITH MOST WAGERS PLACED
Alexander vs Maidana - 5
Salido vs Lopez 2 - 4
Povetkin vs Huck - 3
Wlad vs Mormeck - 3
Kirkland vs Molina - 3
Chavez vs Rubio - 2
Hernandez vs Cunningham - 2
Alekseev vs Licina - 2
Garcia vs Morales - 2

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