Floyd: where was Pacquiao?

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atsch

Well that's not what I mean.

I'm simply putting it out there that Floyd gets no credit for beating a guy Pacquiao couldn't convincingly beat in 3 tries.
Why does Pacquiao deserve so much credit for beating Marquez and Floyd deserves none? :huh

It makes no sense. They fought at the same weight; the 2 pounds was there, yes..Floyd shoulda made weight, but he took the fight 12-0 and 2 pounds doesn't mean anything.

I respect your opinion but overall it's bias. You just don't like Floyd and you post based off that (IMO). You don't give credit where credit is due.:deal

What does being part of a forum group have anything to do with anything? See, that's how I know you didn't get what I was saying or you were mad behind that screen of yours. You resorted to something that has 0 to do with 0.

 

He never buckled Marquez like Marquez buckled Pacuiao in the 4th and 5th.

Marquez made Pacquiao look very dumb at the end of one of the rounds. He was moving and bobbing and weaving and Pac was hitting air.

 

There were no knockdowns in the 3rd fight. So you are saying that work rate alone won him that fight? So throwing a lot of punches and missing = auto win, even when the other guy lands the harder, cleaner, more effective shots consistently throughout the whole fight? I guess you had Williams winning vs Lara then?

The first 2 fights were close and I had them 1-1 (1 point difference in both), but Marquez won the third fight 8-4, or at worst 7-5. The only people who had Pac winning are *******s and bribed judges.

 

:deal

It's already being considered as one of the worst robberies in the history of boxing.

 

You do realize that Judges often will not score a round lower than 10-7 because it puts a fighter too far down? (see Lederman's remarks about Mayweather-Corrales round 7). There was nothing wrong with the scoring.

Personally, I have Marquez winning all 3 fights (even with a 10-6 in round 1 of fight 1). The first two were close and could have gone either way, but #3 was a robbery.

 

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...uel-marquez-scoring-error-leads-to-jmm-defeat

A point should be deducted for each of the three knockdowns in addition to the point deduction for ring generalship, aggressiveness and controlling the action.



That would make it a 10-6 round in favor of Pacquiao which Judge Burt Clements later conceded too.

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, "I take full responsibility. Had I been aware, I would have scored it 10-6."
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Thanks for pointing that out, guess I was wrong. :good

 

keep that in your head. It's your way of telling yourself that Floyd didn't beat Marquez convincingly.

By the rules of the commission Floyd did not cheat. You just love Pacquiao and you feel he can do no wrong.

I dissagree with everything you say bro. It's not a knock. I just don't think you form your opinion off of anything other than your love for your hero, Pacquiao.

 

wtf! atsch

you are the one who kept excusing floyd and how he cheated jmm off the scales and you're the one accusing me of nuthugging?

you disagree that floyd cheated jmm off the scales? so what do you call floyd's sudden changing of the rules a day or two before the fight? i was not talking about pacquiao here *****.

 

I am talking about the rules. I am not a *****. It seems that anyone who discredits pacquiao becomes a ***** to you.atsch

I don't think I'm the only one on this forum who sees that; you will also find that, in other forums, your kind is not tolerated. I come from the scene of boxing forum. I am simply stating that technically he was not cheating. Sure he breached the contract, but he did not breach the commission rules. Furthermore he paid out of his pocket for the breach of contract; Marquez had every right to tell him to make the contracted weight. By the rules of the commission he was spot on. The commission required a 147 pound limit.

Since you like to ask so many questions that have nothing to do with anything...What is the weight limit set by the NSAC? 144 or 147...

Also, do you really mean to tell me that if Floyd had went down to 144 that it would have been an entirely different fight than the 12-0, 120-107 schooling that we saw.

Back to my main point, nobody has beaten Marquez convincingly inside the rules of the commission aside from Floyd Mayweather. I am not arguing anything about the contracted weight; yes Floyd should have made the contracted weight. He didn't and he paid out of pocket for it.

Are you known on this forum, for having Pacquiao's nut juice all in your face. Seriously bro, get over it. Floyd was within the rules of the commission.

So how does Pac get all the credit in the world for beating Marquez in the 3rd fight but Floyd gets none? :huh Oh yea thats right ******* lover, Floyd didn't make the contracted weight....:!:.....:good....atsch

 

you're a ***** since you are denying what floyd did and you are saying that it is just ok. the fight was contracted at 144. so both marquez and floyd needs to make the weight. but when floyd feels that he does not want to make it, he suddenly demands to change the rules a day or two before the fight.

so are you ok with boxers ignoring the weight and all is fine just because he paid for it with money? it's even a bigger travesty. floyd has all the advantage on that fight and the least he could do is make the weight.

and i knew that you are a ***** since *****s are resorting to the excuse that those 2 pounds doesn't matter and floyd would beat him anyway. atsch if it doesn't matter, then floyd should have made it.

 

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go back and read my post. I said he was still within the rules OF THE COMMISSION:deal..

He was off on his agreement with Marquez. Your a ******* bro. Straight up. You suck on Manny and whatever he is about. Get over it. Floyd is the only one to beat Marquez convincingly. Even the #1 lb 4 lb couldn't do it in Manny. Have you seen the Norwood-Marquez or John-Marquez fights...probably not because all you do is watch Manny.

You have to be one of the worst posters I've seen. Go back and read my thread. None the less, Marquez agreed to have the contract changed anyways. Not that it matters because the commission rules are what matters and Floyd stayed within the commission rules.

To the original point because *******s like this are utterly ignorant and don't really know when to stop and when to give credit, Mayweather is the only fighter to beat Marquez convincingly. Pacquiao couldn't beat a blown up lightweight:rofl:rofl:rofl

The 2 pounds didn't matter...go ask a Klitschko fan to prove my point. You just love Pacquiao to much and he can do no wrong. Pointless to argue with you because you don't give credit where it's due. We'll be going back and forth. Do me a favor and take Pacquiaos dick out of your mouth, it belongs to Jinkee, not you.

 

The fact that you actually need this explained says it all about you.

You're just a troll sticking to one point, That Pac didn't beat JMM convincingly, and adding for some reason, that Floyd did, to mean something significant. And you keep saying that over and over.

You're as transparent as glass dude. Keep on fishing, you'll get the bites you want. :roll:
You're most likely an alt account anyway... *yawn*

 

Whern u put the expectations aside JMM did not do enough in 3 to win.
He faded pretty significantly last 5 rounds. The guy that has Mannys number still could not finish out the championship rounds on top. Says a lot. JMM had luxury of 24 rounds experience and his best camp ever and still came up short. Half the battle vs Manny is the unusual style.
JMM is the only one built to hang close but not win the way he is able to trade and stay close.
Manny neutralized Juans combination punching in 3. If Juan is not throwing combinations he is not winning and its as simple as dat.
Floyd has perfect style to win manny IMO.