George Foreman (1990) vs Ike Ibeabuchi (1997) - who would win?

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  1. Sardu

    Sardu RIP Mr. Bun: 2007-2012 Full Member

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    Lets say the Foreman who vaporized Gerry Cooney in two rounds vs the Ibeabuchi who iced Chris Byrd and warred with David Tua for 12 exciting rounds. No, I'm not overrating "The President" because I think the prime Foreman of 1973-76' crushes him. The more seasoned, polished, rotund George three years into his comeback is the Big George of this bout.
     
  2. Tuaman

    Tuaman Return Of The Terminator Full Member

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    I think Ike would get the decision by popping that jab of his. Foreman would land some big bombs here and there but loses via decision, imo.
     
  3. MAG1965

    MAG1965 Loyal Member banned

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    I pick Ike i this one
     
  4. MMJoe

    MMJoe Boxing Addict Full Member

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    George for me.
     
  5. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ibeabuchi by mercy stoppage.

    Fantastic Chin, Good Power and an Incredible work rate. George would be outworked and likely take one too many.
     
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  6. bodhi

    bodhi Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah, Ike would outwork George. As overrated Ike is by many on here, he was a good hw then. George in his comeback wa average when at his best with a relativly low workrate and a bad defence. He had his power, chin and jab going for him but that´s it more or less. I think Ike could take a few of George´s punches while simply throwing and landing more.
     
  7. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Don't know if that would happen, but what you're saying isn't entirely out of the question either. Alex Stewart who wasn't a fraction of the fighter that Ike was, made a mess of Foreman's face, and had that match been scheduled for 12 instead of 10, who knows if we might have seen a corner retirement or not. Ike had too few bouts to really be picked over a great fighter with any real conviction, but his big wins over Chris Byrd and Dave Tua certainly showed that he had something special.
     
  8. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    I find it interesting to see how many here under estimate Ike ... his career was short and he was obviously a nut but as a fighter he was an exceptional talent ... he basically fought a prime, highly motivated Tua to a standstill in Tua's best fight ever ..that fight is right up there with Bowe - Holyfield 1 as one of the best heavyweight fights of the past twenty years .. no offense to Big George but Ike wold have stopped him in a few rounds .. a mismatch .. Ike was exactly the type of fighter that Foreman would never step into the ring with .. He was too smart ..
     
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  9. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ibeabuchi stops old Foreman . Young foreman may be a different story .
     
  10. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    Interesting.

    I like how you mentioned it is 3 years into Foreman's comeback. By the time Foreman fought Morrison in '93 he was declining. Yes, he managed to KO Moorer in '94 but he did not look good in the fight prior to the KO win. He peaked vs. Holyfield in early '91 then he became a household name to a new generation. He was hot and cold after his impressive effort vs. Holyfield.

    After Holyfield he did not fight for almost 8 months. He was all over the TV and not really focused on boxing. He stopped Jimmy Ellis in late '91 (not that Jimmy Ellis), then he struggled vs. Alex Stewart in '92. He dropped Stewart twice early then Stewart used Foreman's head as a punching bag, Foreman WMD10.

    He did not fight for almost a year after Stewart and many were not expecting much from Foreman. He looked excellent vs. Coetzer... Foreman KO8. He looked as good if not better than Bowe or Bruno were vs. Coetzer.

    Next up was Morrison, Moorer, Schulz, Grimsley, Savarese, and Briggs. He looked good vs. Savarese and Briggs but did not get the decision vs. Briggs.

    He did not look good vs. Morrison and lost by decision. he did not look good vs. Moorer but managed to knock him out in the 10th. Grimsley wasn't much but managed to last the distance vs. Foreman. Grimsley would last just 10 seconds vs. Jimmy Thunder! Schulz made Foreman look bad and Foreman barely got the decision win.

    Prior to Holyfield Foreman smashed Qawi in 7 (Hall of Famer, only Holyfield and Foreman were able to stop him), Cooper in 2, Cooney in 2, and Rodrigues in 2 among others. He beat some bums but he beat them just as bad if not worse than anybody had ever or would ever beat them... like KO4 Tim Anderson, KO1 Terry Anderson, KO3 Rocky Sekorski, KO1 David Jaco, KO5 J.B. Williamson, and KO3 Ken Lakusta among others. Yes, "Bigfoot" Martin managed to go the distance but that's all he managed to do... Martin was down in the 8th round. 24-0 (23) leading up to the Holyfield fight.

    Ike was awesome but all we can really look at is his close decision win over Tua and his 5th round KO vs. Byrd. They are both good wins. The win over Tua is so impressive because it was a very good Tua and Ike went toe to toe. The win over Byrd is impressive because Byrd had proved to be very durable and elusive but Ike had the power and skill to steam roll Byrd.

    Foreman stands 2" taller with a 6" longer reach and about 10 more Lbs.

    I'd favor Ike but Foreman definately has a chance.
     
  11. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Ike is getting sold short at this point. While in most cases I give the proven fighter the benefit of the doubt I simply don't think comeback Foreman was all that good. He had a big punch and a good chin but so did David Tua.

    Ike from what I've seen on flim was strong enough to deal with Foreman, he boxed well and had a stellar chin as well as a amazing work rate. Foreman wouldn't have been able to compete.

    For the record I actually thought that Ike was going to be the Next Great Champ after Lennox Lewis.
     
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  12. PowerPuncher

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    Ibeabuchi may well stop Old Foreman
     
  13. MadcapMaxie

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    Ibeabuchi by UD maybe late TKO depending on the ref...
     
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  14. Foreman Hook

    Foreman Hook ☆☆☆ G$ora ☆☆☆ Full Member

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    NOBODY stops Old Foreman, he has a cheen like TEXAS-GRANITE. :!:
     
  15. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Ha, Foreman was badly wobbled by a no name in Ken Lakusta, and had shot Cooney landed a few more good ones Foreman would have been in trouble.

    Foreman was badly busted up by Stewart. Did you see that fight? Foreman was lucky to win it, and only did so because he was a famous x champion who many people wanted to make money on.

    Ike had a top level chin, a good work rate, and a good punch. I think he would out work Foreman, and possible earn a TKO on Swelling/ Cuts.

    PS: I think we never saw Ike vs Lewis for a reason. Lewis did not want the risk.