Amir Khan Deserves More Respect

I'll always be a Khan fan, for the reasons mentioned in the OP. He might be a thick ******* sometimes, but he's an exciting fighter with lots of heart in the ring. He also gets people talking, love him or hate him, which is great for the sport we all love. He fights the best available to him and seems to actually give a **** about being remembered as someone great, what more could you ask for?

 

Whoa, take it easy mate! Maybe you should get back on the Xbox.

Before we start calling entire countries racist, name a more politically correct and ridiculously diverse country in the world?

I've lived in many spots around the world includng 10 years in Asia and for good or bad can't think of one. Sure racism exsits in the UK as with all places but it's not that bad. Infact some of the worst rasicm in the UK is between ethnic minotites.

 

I don't agree with the person you quoted but I don't think I can agree with your statement either, without derailing this thread any further what minorities are you refering to?

 

how is that different from khan?

ward/froch wasn't a close fight. what's he gonna say? oh yeah. he's gonna call him boring & if ward is lucky he might give him a rematch.

“He’s very dull and boring and every fight he’s involved with in is boring…He’s trying to get a fight with Kessler, he’s trying to get Bute, but Bute don’t want to fight him. He’s talking about a catchweight with Martinez. Ridiculous. Martinez is a light middleweight at best…The desperation from Andre Ward since winning the title off me is getting bad…After I beat Bute, I might look at that fight as a rematch.”

on kessler:

"I thought I was winning but you've got to be careful when you box away from home and you've got to make sure of the result. I thought I hurt Kessler but when you look at some of the scorecards, I was never going to win that fight. It's a bit of a sham and it's upsetting and if it was in Nottingham I would have won that fight. I would have got the decision...

Fifty per cent of my left ear drum is gone, it's perforated and I went to hospital on Tuesday to have it cleared out. I need to get it checked again, It affected my balance and I felt a little bit wobbly in there. That was one of a number of injuries I had, but I don't want to make excuses."

the pascal fight was shown on itv & it had good viewing figures...they desperately wanted him back but he was after silly money. he had a great opportunity to build a brand but pissed it up the wall because he reckoned he was gonna be a "superstar in america". his lack of uk tv exposure is entirely his own fault.

 

I like the fighter Khan.. He's shown he's a crybaby ***** since the Peterson loss, but I could honestly care less... If he goes into the ring and shows he's improved his inside game and beats Peterson convincingly it will speak volumes about him as a boxer.. I don't think he'll make a huge inside game improvement in such a short period of time, but hopefully he's working on improving his craft and not just crying about how he feels he was robbed.

So basically if he keeps trying to fight top/near top fighters and keeps improving the only real complaint is his outside of the ring behavior/attitude.. Majority on ESB care far too much about that, and that's why he gets so much hate here. In the ring it seems he's headed in the right direction, hopefully he keeps learning and improving.

 

You did read me say Carl Froch was an ******* too right?

I was merely explaining that while I feel Amir Khan is an ******* too he is an ******* who has ALOT of opportunities and ALOT of support. (as people are claiming that Khan is discriminated against)

Which cannot be said for Froch.

Also regarding pricing himself out, did he price himself out of Jonathan Ross show? Commentating on Sky? Getting PPV on Sky? Or Primetime?

You see my point and I dont even like Froch....:good

 

:good

 

i was specifically replying to the points you raised. like you saying froch had "an attitude you could support". :thumbsup

i don't think anyone has said that khan has not received opportunities...for any reason.

not even slightly.

 

That particluar example I could support, which was his most recent loss and therefore most relevant. For the record the Kessler rant I couldn't but a least he didn't go over too overboard.

Posters were claiming Khan is hated on due to his race, it may well be the case (for some people) however I was explaining that even if that is the case he is not missing out as he has ALOT of opportunities, so it is certainly being balanced.

You can't win them all :good

 

the big difference between ward/froch & khan/peterson is ward/froch wasn't even remotely close or controversial. what was he going to say? khan didn't make excuses after he got sparked by prescott. is that an "attitude you can respect"?

"After losing my belt to Kessler in Denmark in a fight I feel I won, and didn't even come close to winning on the judges' scorecards, there's no way I'm going to put myself in that position again."

"In Denmark or Germany, or anywhere east of Nottingham, I'm not going to be in a position where I can win the fight on points."

"I put myself in that position once, and lost my world title. So the fight is in Nottingham or it's on neutral territory - in America or maybe Canada."

"The last thing I want to do is to prepare and train for a fight in Germany with the same promoter and have the same problems."

the problem is your 2 points are not related.

no-one is saying khan hasn't had opportunities.

& my point was that froch's lack of tv exposure was entirely his own making. not that one is discriminated against or has had more opportunities. :thumbsup

 

thats because khan is an A level fighter who set the tone , and zabs recent opponent was an out gunned novice

 

froch is well known to be lazy when it comes to self promotion, he expects alot of things to come on a plate for him, he consistantly complains about things but he never does anything about it, khan and ricky hatton did alot of work when it comes to promotion, calzaghe was also a culprit and laxy when it comes to this, you cant blame khan for being the harder worker.

 

****** has also said this khan and ricky put themselves out there to the public, where has froch and calz never, he has promoted 3 out of the 4 and doesnt get on with any of them anymore.,

 

The fact that the fight was close supports the point I am making, Khan moaned and moaned when really what he needed to do was improve his skillset instead of blaming everyone else for the loss. Do you think he has?

When he got sparked by Prescott, he didn't make any excuses (from memory) so I had no issue with his attitude, but it certainly didn't make him "stronger" as he likes to say, as he still has a non existant defense.

I already said I didn't support Froch Kessler rant :huh

I dont agree that Froch lack of TV exposure is entirely his own fault and I know alot of the UK commentators dont agree either but we can agree to disagree. :good

 

you could say the exact same thing about froch post-kessler.

which was my point.

i was replying to you saying: "but at least he didn't go over too overboard". he bitched about it for months. that fight was less controversial than khan/peterson too imo.

yeah. he was on itv for the pascal fight. they wanted him back cos it did good numbers. he asked for silly money & acted like he was entitled to big money cos he was on the verge of "superstardom in america"...like he was doing itv a favour by deigning to be on their channel.

"If a British TV company shows it, it will pay dividends for them." he said.

:tired

what he really did was pass up a great opportunity to build his brand in the uk. mainstream exposure on terrestrial tv. all he had to do was take similar money to what itv paid him for pascal build his profile & it would have paid off down the road.

instead he pissed off itv, pissed off sky by using them as leverage & marginalised himself as a commodity. it is a disgrace that he wasn't getting proper uk coverage until the johnson fight...but it was also his own fault.

& i say that as a fan of froch.