Liston vs Foreman

Prime (but green) Foreman showing mint stamina with late stoppage wins -

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Prime (but green) Foreman showing v.good stamina with 10 Round Decision -

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Ronny Lyle would of looked EQUALLY DEVASTATING VS tiny little glassy types who belonged @lightheavy. :hey

Or Wet Toilet Paper chinned journeymen types who never beat a ranked heavyweight opponent in their life. :yep


ANYWAY and I think Foreman hit a shitload harder than Ex-Middleweight Martin. :deal


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Knocked cold as a corpse by a FORMER MIDDLEWEIGHT with a 50% KO record. :rofl


Liston was in good muscular shape as you can see in teh film-footage And he was only 37 years old. :deal

NOW compare to Old Foreman at age 42 taking flush combos on teh chin from a ATG-Heavyweight like a G. :smoke

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Foreman Hooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook!:hat

 

Foreman was uncommonly good for an older fighter. We can all agree on that. He was one of a kind. He had some things in his older years that he didnt as a younger fighter...one being patience and the other being that he utilized his big jab more consistantly.

Big George also lived a clean life going into his second career...nobody ever accused Sonny of living a clean life for more than about 5 minutes.

Anyway prime for prime none of it matters. Its gonna be explosive and probably short.

 

You need to do a lot more reading and studying. The power is there rest assured. There's but a bee's dick in it.

Lets look at the size of the combatants for starters.

Foreman is 6'3 1/2 with 82" of reach. Liston is 6' 1/2 with 84.
Foreman is 217 1/2 when he murdered Frazier. Liston sat at 215 for the Patterson rematch. There's really not much in it.

On the flip who did Foreman fight akin to Liston? Lyle might be a very poor man's Liston?

Nor does your opinion of Liston going by this stupendous quote.

Entirely possible - i'm not trying to understate Foreman unlike yourself with Liston. The guys a munster.

Where on earth did you get that from my post?!?!??!?!?! Gimmee even half a pound of what you're on :rasta

Liston never made any mafia excuse, insiders did. If you can absolutely prove both of these didn't exist you're worth a fortune. Of course we know that not to be true.

I'm shaking my head so much it's near falling off.

Grammar is overrated too.

 

Side comment: The Martin clip shows just how exciting Cosell was. The best.

 

Foreman would take him out in less than six rounds, I dont think Liston could deal with a harder hitter and stronger man than himself, he would fold and either quit or get ko'd

 

I think Liston would have beat Foreman. Liston was an animal and too many people remember just the Ali fights.

 

Foreman would KO him inside of 3. I would bet the lives of my kids on that.

 

:thumbsup I like your thinking m8, it makes proper good business sense.:hat

Hook does not have kids - But i would bet my £1.5mill crib on Big G Foreman sparking Sonny Bitchston cold as a corpse!:deal


Foreman Hoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooook!:smoke

 

Ah, great perspective coming from someone with the perspective of fighting inside the squared circle. :good

Mentality of fighting and of a fighter is the most undervalued aspect of boxing when it comes to the fans of those fighters. This is no more truer than in the case of Sonny Charles Liston.

 

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Is it relevant considering how much stronger Foreman seems to be mentally? I don't see how one can just say Liston had a better chin. Suzie Q claimed Mac Foster iced him in sparring. We saw him iced toward the end of his career. Foreman never came close to being iced toward the end of his career and he faced much bigger, stronger, harder-punching opposition (Holyfield, Morrison, Briggs) than 198lb Leotis Martin. Not to mention we've seen Liston hurt on film despite not actually being dropped in his prime. It's a tough statement to back. Liston wilts quicker either way.

 

Right, for those that harp on Foreman's stamina issues, it's objective to mention that Foreman fights at a much higher activity than Liston ever did. I'm sure their cardiovascular systems are quite comparable when you get to the science of their conditioning. If it ends up being a short fight, which most feel it should then I don't see that playing into effect too much. Unless Liston ices Foreman. If not, he will most likely have to meet at his pace and that could tire himself out a bit too.

For all the talks of Liston's technical ability, straighter punching, etc. He had unremarkable speed. Probably slower than Foreman, especially in bunches despite his superior technique. You hardly hear praise over his great counter-punching ability either. That's because it's hardly ever there, it doesn't exist. Liston had head-movement, but wasn't a explosive fighter. He's not a guy that makes you pay for your mistakes. He just rams that jab down your throat and then busts you up. Liston won't be pushing Foreman back. In this type of a fight, I'd expect the tougher, stronger, more willing fighter to win this kind of scrap up.

 

XPERT-post. :deal

Pete m8, did you know Leotis Martin was really a Natural-Middleweight with a pathetic sub-50% KO Percentage??

 

XPERT-point Pete.:thumbsup

Sonny Bitchston was harboring a serious Glass Heart, its irrefutable.:deal

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