Middleweight King's to Pawns in Boxing Landscape

Abraham needs to move to 160 dont no if he can do it anymore and if he cant things dont look good for him at 168, Pavlik i think has something left in him dont no if he beats the best fighters at 168 but i think he'd put in good performances against the likes of Froch and Bute.

 

Fighting each other is a logical step to take, the loser is probably done, the winner is back in the bigtime

 

Abraham V Groves would be tasty, Pavlik looked how he should look against a soft touch.

Abraham needs to be matched properly because its glaringly apparent he cant handle world class boxers, it doesn't mean he cant be in good fights, but him vs the wards of this world is just poitless, he doesnt have the speed, output, style or range to deal with them.

 

If Abraham won a WBO title then he could fight the likes of Bika, Oosthuizen, Pavlik, Andrade etc

Good fights, all of them.

 

I could see Groves frustrating Abraham, moving around the ring coming in and raiding him and being gone before Abraham opens up, but the thing is at some point Abraham will land, he did so against Froch, Dirrell and Ward and those were able to survive it (dirrell less so but you know what i mean), its weather Groves can take the odd bomb that lands or not.

 

It's the most pitiful division in boxing right now.

For whatever reason, all the top names are content to fight bus drivers and we never get to see the right matches. We've only seen Williams vs Martinez x2, when we should be seeing Pirog, Golovkin etc more in the mix rather than sharing used up opponents between themselves and some other Euros, while the American based guys use up the Brits and whoever else they can get their hands on.

Can't think of a division where we've seen so few of the best fights in the past five years. Joke.

 

Heres Pavliks performance for those who haven't seen it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=HKqrTaiGR9g

 

Pavlik coming back is a good thing for boxing. As flawed as he is he's a lot of fun. Of course you have to put up with his joe six pack fans who think he's some sort of elite beast who eats every one for breakfast. Genuinely the least knowledgeable fans in boxing. Worse even than the Klit fans.

 

No one seems to rate Pavlik or Abraham at 168 and you can see why. With the landscape of the middleweight scene though you'd have to think there is alot to achieve at 160.

Pirog vs Abraham?
Pavlik vs Chavez?
Pavlik vs Geale?
Pavlik vs Abraham?

Good fights can be made. Winnable fights. Perhaps they just can't make the weight anymore.

 

Yeah, this fight really should have happened when both were at the height of their games. Now, I have next to no interest in those fighting to be honest.

Abe should really try to get down to 160 again. I know he says he cant make it anymore, but he is physically too small for Super Middle. If he can't make the 160 limit, he should just rack up wins against Euro level opposition. The world class guys, and even borderline world class fighters, all beat him. If he stays at the weight, it won't be long before he is just considered a dangerous stepping stone to world level.

Pavlik is entirely different IMO. His physical dimensions would allow him to mix with the bigger guys at 168. While he may not have the power he used to, he has pretty good boxing skills. A long rangy jab would pick apart a few fighters at the weight IMO. If his head is right, he can still be a big player I think.

 

Still would not mind Pavlik/Abraham, would have to be at 168 now though.