If Pavlik remains at 168 after June 8th fight --> Abraham or Bute.

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  1. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    Neither. Unless Kelly is shot, he's still all wrong for Abraham. And Bute's got bigger fish to fry an has been burned by Pavlik before (and is a horrible style matchup for Kelly).

    They should be targeting Froch or Stieglitz or maybe even Kessler. If Groves beats Stieglitz, I think that's the direction he'll go.
     
  2. BOGART

    BOGART Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think he would be a great fit at middleweight but I don't think Pavlik goes to 160 again so super middleweight options make the most sense. Even if he could return to his peak he couldn't beat Ward but I guess that would be a big money fight so maybe.

    At his best I think Pavlik beats Bute but I'm not sure how close to peak he can return but I could see a Bute-Pavlik fight happening, but the fight that needs to happen at 168 is Ward-Bute.

    Arum has a bad habit of not doing the fights when they should happen and something ruins the whole fight. Pavlik-Abraham at 160, Lopez-Gamboa, Donair-Mares, etc so its disappointing that he's taking an interest in an Abraham bout now.

    Pavlik would have beaten him at 160 and unless he's really taking a nose-dive(which I doubt) than Pavlik beats him at 168. It would still be a fun fight but I think Abraham goes elsewhere.

    There's a lot of good fights from 168-175 and Pavlik fits in nicely there. He'll never dominate those divisions but he could possibly be a top contender for a few years if all goes well. I'm just glad to see him back in the ring and would like to see him keep it together to make another run.
     
  3. RustBelt

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    Just Pavlik staying active is alright with me!
     
  4. v2k987

    v2k987 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pavlik v Abraham is one of the most exciting match ups i can think of at the moment. Has fireworks written all over it. Pavlik is all wrong for Abraham but Abraham's power and Kelly's lack of defence make it a great match up. Assuming of course Kelly stays focused and wracks up another win.
     
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    Pavlik Abraham on a collision course :happy
     
  6. Greco

    Greco Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think Pavlik would have a better chance of beating Abraham.
     
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    This:deal
     
  8. Hermit

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    Doesn't Abraham get the winner of Grove/Stieglitz? You KNOW Saurland will win the purse bid on this so it will be under his thumb/ref/judges/etc. so he can buy little Arthur a belt.
     
  9. drozzy

    drozzy AERE Full Member

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    Yep. Kelly wouldn't even be able to plan on fighting him before say, late fall maybe winter.