the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by Mantequilla, Nov 20, 2009.


  1. Vic-JofreBRASIL

    Vic-JofreBRASIL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Round 1 - good sense of positioning by McGowan, but I liked Burruni in that round and his few surprise attacks were nice, a very good one with that left….
    10-9 Burruni

    Round 2 - Burruni with wide open punches as usual, McGowan better in the long distance in this round, controlling the movements of the Italian quite well…..
    10-9 McGowan

    Round 3 - good jabs by McGowan, burruni apparently trying to counter-punch now.
    Close round, 10-9 McGowan

    Round 4-Burruni awkward like always, I don´t know what you guys think, but seems to me that McGowan uses too much movements and this is making his attacks less efficient here. Just a thought, anyway 10-9 McGowan again.....

    Round 5- wow, good right by burruni .....
    nice lead right by McGowan later
    mcgowan fighting very cautiously, and don´t want to spend even a second in the close range, pushing away Burruni from there….
    Very close round……10-9 burruni IMO

    Round 6 - if McGowan was a better counter-puncher perhaps would have caught Burruni clean more often....close round as far as I saw, I give it to Burruni 10-9 ... that's tough to say...

    Round 7 - again, McGowan tries to make Burruni respect the distance with his good jabs.
    burruni counter-punching well though...close round, 10-9 McGowan IMO.

    Round 8-I thought it was a knockdown...:think:
    he´s attacking more in that round, some good lefts..... 10-9 McGowan, this one was clear....

    Round 9-good to see McGowan going forward and landind many punches, 10-9 McGowan

    Round 10 - 10-9 McGowan, like in the 9th round

    Round 11-McGowan now seems more focused than before on counter-punching, and did it well. great round by Mc 10-9

    Round 12 - 10-9 McGowan, good round again

    Round 13 - 10-9McGowan, clear enough

    Round 14 -10-9 McGowan, easy.....

    Round 15 - 10-9 McGowan......now I´m impressed !

    Well, very good performance, especially after round 7......I liked McGowan, I had only seen small clips of him before.......very good boxer, a very good performance, thanks to McGrain, I watched the video on his channel.....
     
  2. natonic

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    Ken Buchanan W10 Frankie Otero

    Buchanan 1,3,5,6,7(10-8),8,9,10
    Otero 2,4

    I had it even after 4 rounds then gave Buchanan the last 6 rounds (two point difference in the 7th with a knockdown). Otero looked pretty good in the first 4 rounds but Buchanan's superior motor took over from there. Buchanan set a high pace and Otero couldn't maintain his sharpness throughout the fight like Ken did. Buchanan's weight was reported as 132 1/4. I thought he looked damn good this light and could've made a hellacious 130lber.
    Otero reminded me of Johnny "Dancing Machine" Carter (Carter specifically against Jeff Chandler and Oscar Muniz) in that he looked like a world beater for 3 or 4 rounds but could not remain sharp at pace and didn't seem to have the guile to change or dictate the tempo of the fight.
     
  3. natonic

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    Wilfredo Benitez vs Bruce Curry I

    Benitez 2,7,8,10
    Curry 1,4,5,6,9

    3rd even - Benitez was carrying the round then badly hurt at the end.

    I had it 96-92 Curry but unfortunately the scoring was just by rounds.

    What was up with Benitez? he looked terrible. Any back story to this one? Maybe Benitez trained two days or had 3 whores in his room the night before? Credit to Curry but he wasn't in Benitez's league.
     
  4. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    y did he also beat him in d rematch then ?
     
  5. lufcrazy

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    Elorde vs Rivas 2.

    Nice patient performance by elorde. His left is like a lazer and it'd be great seeing him vs pacman at sfw with the battle of the southpaw lefts.

    hard to be overly thrilled considering the quality of the opponent and the way in which he lost twice to ortiz.

    but still, it was good imo.
     
  6. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :huhOrtiz was a big Lightweight, Elorde a natural 130 pounder. I don't think I'd hold it against him all that much considering Ortiz's greatness.
     
  7. Vic-JofreBRASIL

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    Wow...what a great new avatar El Bujia :shock:
     
  8. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I'm not holding it against him.

    I started the post about 6 hours and then left the house and just returned and submitted it.

    What I'm saying is that of the prime footage we have of Elorde, there's him beating this guy and losing to Ortiz. There's not much to thrill over because this guy wasn't that good and Ortiz beat him.

    I'm basically saying that I assume he's better than the available footage indicates but it's hard to say.
     
  9. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There's footage of him against Saddler as well. He was winning that fight prior to the cuts stoppage. I forget which one it was and it's been a while since I've watched it, but he was ahead on all cards and was definitely doing the better offensive work. Until Saddler got his dirty paws on him, anyway.
     
  10. lufcrazy

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    Yeah I know that one but it's decidedly before Elorde's prime imo.

    60-67 seems to have been his best years.
     
  11. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :hey
     
  12. Kalasinn

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    I would. :yep


    Ball so hard.
     
  13. lufcrazy

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    Fenech v Payakaroon

    Really good display by Jeff. He walked into a few too many shots for my liking but overall it's a really good display or wearing your opponent down, even one who ran as much as payakaroon did.

    When I read the fight description of the ko I was fearing some bs stoppage and so was relieved when I saw payak crumble in a heap under a relentless assualt (that makes me sound a bit weird :lol:)

    impressive. Not as defensively sound as an armstrong or even a chavez but really good none the less.



    Foreman v Frazier

    well what can you say about this eh? Probably the best victory in HW history all things considered. Such a burtal destruction of a primed HW ATG. Phenomenal.
     
  14. Flea Man

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    Considering he'd just beaten Saddler, and came down from fly/bantam, I wouldn't say it's out of the question that, considering he looked good until cut, that the Saddler footage may well be the best Elorde you'll get, despite him being at his consensus peak at 130 :good

     
  15. lufcrazy

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    Do you think he looks better there than against rivas?

    Yeah don't get me wrong it's very impressive. Just not as much as armstrong v ross nor chavez v rosario.