H2H kings of the traditional 8 divisions?

Hearns v Leonard 12 rounds. WHOYOUPICKING?

 

Been a long time since i watched the fight - didn't Jones just carried ancient McCallum over 12 rounds never stepping up a gear?

 

Mayweather would kill PAC at super featherweight apart from that I think you have a fairly good list. Also I don't blame you for naming so many at various weights. Literally too many arguments for one over the other and I think that's the best way to look at it rather just decisively picking one.

Edit: also no love for Pernell at LW?

 

Of the first Kingpetch fight? Definitely. Still, some better punchers that could make that Masahiko falter IMO, but only the very best.

If I felt really justified giving it to essentially a career light fly (even if he did beat Chitalada again at fly, past his best) then Chang could easily cut out all the bull****, but I'm not giving it to him. Plus I think Lynch and Perez beat him, probably. But he'd be right up there. Harada would give him fits, Canto less IMO.

It's such a great weight for me personally, without a clearly defined no.1 like so many others has, or even a consensus four or five like middleweight has, you could really offer me quite a few Flys on their best day and I could say 'he could beat this guy' or vice versa. Amazing weight.

Jofre isn't the firmest of picks either. Whereas:

HW: Ali
LHW: Spinks
WW: Robinson
FW: Marcel

Probably would be.

And if you were desperate for a middleweight choice, with a gun to my head and safety first:

MW: Monzon

 

Hearns by close UD. :bbb

Leonard tries to stop Tommy late, but finds him not tired enough.

 

Obviously it's Arguello at 130. Moon at super fly.

 

Good man.:thumbsup

 

Of both fights!

Harada won the second one!:fire

Like who for example?

Agreed.

Panama Al Brown?
Olivares?

Interesting choice.

What about Duran then?

If Marcel hadn't retired so early it would have been interesting to see if he could beat Arguello again in the rematch.

 

He beat Arguello well enough in the first! In his three complete prime performances, he shows a huge amount in near dominations of extremely classy, and more importantly different stylistic propositions. Breathtaking stuff. And don't think I don't know that you know that Marcel still grew as a fighter post-Duran. And, IMO he looked class there and the stoppage was farcical, so :tong

Harada clearly lost pace in the 2nd Pone fight, before surging in the last round to reaffirm his grip IMO. That was one that was way closer than it had to be. Don't have anyone in mind to land bombs on Harada, just not sure he could maintain that high a level of swarming at fly consistently against big punchers. Bar Avelar however, there isn't anyone I could think of that hits harder at fly than Medel did at bantam, but I definitely think Harada peaked in the first Jofre fight in terms of all-round performance and who it was against...that was more impressive all round a victory IMO. Against Pone he was a force of ****ing nature! It'd be enough against most. I'm not sure someone like Benny Lynch would be all that intimidated though, and not sure Harada would be as gung-go when hit by him...although if the Medel fight was any indication Harada would walk through anything until he was truly wasted.

Olivares was a close one, as was Zarate.

 

more or less, but that's kind of the point.He did that in most of his 175 fights.Even against Toney and Hopkins he fought that same way and never movd through gears.he was great at it-it was more or less his whole modus operandi-, but i don't like it against the better 175 fighters as much as i do at middle.Jones usually tended to let his hands go and cut loose only against 2nd or 3rd tier aggressors where there was a comfy talent gap to operate in, but nonetheless was forced to punch with them or be stuck on the ropes.

 

Hard fight for Charles that. Wouldn't find the distance easy to measure and it'd stop his offence getting going IMO.

 

not charles at 175?

 

Yeah, the stoppage is of those misteries like Saldivar-Luis1 DQ.

Yet you almost made an assumption that Mighty Harada can be stopped!

Outrageous!:fire