H2H kings of the traditional 8 divisions?

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  1. thistle1

    thistle1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    here's an alternative list, of greats who could beat any other at the weight

    Jersey Joe Walcott
    Lloyd Marshall
    Jock McAvoy
    Zivic
    Ike
    FW ?
    BW ?
    Lynch


    don't know enough about the smaller guys, but ALL of these fighters could beat anyone in history at their weight(top Giants exclude), and are just as great as any, though in some instances not number 1 persay.
     
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Good list.
     
  3. Flea Man

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    I honestly see no way you read his post thoroughly.

     
  4. Flea Man

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    Jones at 160 is a far more reasonable pick than him at 175 IMO.
     
  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I didn't say it wasn't reasonable. I said it was a leap of faith.

    How many meaningful victories did he have at mw?

    For me it comes to assuming he'd be just as good as he was at smw/lhw. That's where the faith goes in.

    I'm tempted to put him in as my guy at mw (still vacant at present)
     
  6. frankenfrank

    frankenfrank Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    your 1st bad post in at least a long while .
    U think Arnold Cream could ever beat George Foreman ? or David Tua ? or Jameel McCline "even" ? Cream might have lasted d 12 rds distance with Tua something like 1 time out of 5 , being generous 2 Cream of course .
    If u picked Lloyd Marshall @ LHW , remember he was a MW at most .
    do u c him ever beating Michael Moorer @ 175 ? Muhammad Qawi ?
    @ 168 , do u really think he could have beaten Gerald McClellan ? or r u 1 of those who think that Benn "actually beat" McClellan ?
    @ 160 i m also having trouble imagining him beating McClellan .
    McClellan was bigger , more durable and about as hard punching .
    could Fritzie Zivic ever beat WSJ ?
    could Ike Williams ever beat Armstrong ?
     
  7. Webbiano

    Webbiano Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hopkins? And considering my four picks for MW would probably be B-Hop Jones Jr Monzon and Hagler I'd say it's a pretty reasonable choice
     
  8. fists of fury

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    Heavy: Ali (Predictable I know)
    Lightheavy: Michael Spinks
    Middle: Carlos Monzon
    Welter: Sugar Ray Robinson (Another predictable choice, sorry)
    Light: Pernell Whitaker (Duran is just as acceptable, but I like the less popular choice)
    Feather: Sal Sanchez
    Bantam: Maybe Carlos Zarate, not too sure
    Fly: No idea.
     
  9. lufcrazy

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    I honestly see no way your quote was an accurate representation of what I actually said :good
     
  10. Flea Man

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    Well, your point was 'how would he beat Wlad?'

    His point was 'excluding the big oafs like Wlad' :good
     
  11. Flea Man

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    Do, he has the perfect style to beat Monzon IMO :good
     
  12. Flea Man

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    Hold on, you've edited???!!? :smoke
     
  13. lufcrazy

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    I actually credited him with a good alternate list.
     
  14. lufcrazy

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    I probably agree.

    I still think it's a leap of faith.
     
  15. McGrain

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    I wonder how many attempts Walcott would need to beat prime Louis or Marciano?