Muhammad Ali at his best vs. Wladimir Klitschko at his best, who wins?

You harped on about homosexuality and neo nazi, which has got nothing to do with boxing. There was no relevant or valid points made, save that you dislike (hate?) Wlad and Vitali and their fans, and why would anyone care about that?

 

You are trying to explain something to them when one guy said that Wlad has better footwork than Ali dont waste you time :good

 

I wont argue with your points, because I assume you know what you talk about. But just out of curiousity ... If you have watched the video clips posted by T.S. what you think of Haye compared to those guys Ali annihilated? I am no expert on the 70's, but as far as I could tell Haye had a better step in, better range, comparable speed and was more unpredictabe in his offence.

Saying Ali would beat Wlad because he beat Terrell ... Well, he would have to work a lot harder for it, unless Wlad suddenly suffered from another Corrie Sanders breakdown.

 

I think Lennox would have beaten Ali as well. I do think that Ali is the Greatest heavyweight of all time. simply by what he did during his time and his resilience. However I do not think that he would beat Vladimir Klitschko. Nor do I think tha tJoe Louis would beat Ali nor could Rocky Marciano. David Haye probably would have done better than what you think. Do I think that he is a classic good boxer No but do I think that he would have beaten Sonny Liston and others (yes)

 

What fighters did Ali beat that were better than the klitschko brothers. You are from Arkansas and you think that you know Boxing. It is barely possible that you know anyhting.

 

This is turning into a Klitschko quote of the month contest, but seriously ... That Sonny Liston guy is supposed to be some jabbing God, right? Did he have a night off, or what? Sure, Haye made Wlad miss with his jab. But Wlad still knew how to make use of his jab to win rounds, without riskning getting his frail whiskers cracked.

 

I have seen Sam Peter made better use of his jab than what Liston did against Ali.

 

Ali was not that much faster than David Haye better skill perhaps but not faster or stronger Ali was a cruiser weight Dumbo He may not have been as fast Ali threw his punches straighter better timing.

 

Ask your self this who did Wlad beat so you think he would beat Ali?? His best win is probably Haye, and Haye has just stronger punch than Ali, and add to that that Haye power as heavyweight is very overrated, his wins are Ruiz, Harison, Barett and Valuev, and after Haye made Wlad miss a lot he suddenly became Pernell Whitaker of heavyweightsatsch

 

Ali struggled against defensive boxers - Jones, Norton, Young. He was never that good at pressuring opponents nor at blocking the punches. Ali kept his right hand low and that left him open to counter jabs and left hooks. That would cost Ali dearly against fast HW with size and reach advantage like Wlad. Wlad would outjab Ali to a comfortable UD.

 

Dont you think that had something to do with Alis movement??:hey

 

I will give you another one Sonny Liston wasn't much more talented than Kimbo Slice Watch film and break it down if you can.

 

OK i understand now Wlad is that fast that he would counter Ali at will, i guess Ali is just slightly faster than Wlad in your head. Believe it or not Wlad would look vey very slow against Ali, Wlad is fast for his size but he is very slow for Ali!

 

They are abysmal because they are afraid of getting knocked out. They are overly cautious bu they are fighting a lot bigger people