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The "All Things Mayweather/Pacquiao" Express!!!!!!

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Pacquiao and it isn't even close.

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This ones pretty easy, Manny by a wide margin considering he started out at Junior Flyweight and has won titles as high as Junior Middleweight. As much as a lot of you guys are sick of Manny or don't like talking about him, what he has accomplished in boxing is just short of a miracle.

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Nope...Only U think that alongside a few Moronic biased people who either HATE Floyd or LOVE Pac..LOL...Learn about the game of boxing!
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Boxing ain't no game. You dont PLAY boxing!! - another bull**** quote from your idol Mayweather. Why you trying to disrespect him with this statement?

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.... OK Floyd is one of the most skillful players in history,
very hard to find any drawbacks in his ring performance

hard but not impossible, so what would be the weakest of Floyd in your opinion?

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the way he keeps his left by his abs, vulnerable to straight lefts and rights and right hooks

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He is actually very predictable. Right overhand punch is like a telegraphed punch.

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Stinky gloves said: ↑

.... OK Floyd is one of the most skillful players in history,
very hard to find any drawbacks in his ring performance
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so his skill is not overrated

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he's quite slow.i'd see his punches coming a mile off.

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he hasnt fought the kind of opposition that could exploit his weaknesses and eludes the toughest challenges, until then the jury is out on his greatness.

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so his skill is not overrated
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Nope.

Actually came across a decent article outlining what makes him so difficult the other day.

http://www.rappler.com/sports/2612-the-top-10-boxing-tricks-of-floyd-mayweather

HIGH ELBOW BLOCK

Its not a legal boxing move to throw elbows as an attack, but its surely legal to use your elbows as a guard. Floyd Mayweather sticks his elbows out very high to block incoming attacks, especially when an opponent gets too close.

Mayweather almost sticks that elbow literally into an opponents face. Whenever an opponent successfully rushes Mayweather, he is ineffective because of the high elbow block.

2. HEAD PULL

A fighter should never bring his head down too low, particularly below chest-level, when fighting Mayweather. Floyd Mayweather likes to pull his head down, which prompts the referee to reset the action --much like clinching.

Mayweather will pull his head down and render his opponent ineffective, just when the other fighter is about to launch a counter -- which of course, Mayweather then stuffs.

3. SHOULDER ROLL

Perhaps the most famous of all Mayweathers boxing tricks is the shoulder roll. This technique has been perfected by Floyd via Roger Mayweather, his long-time trainer and uncle.

Mayweather uses his large, broad, left shoulder to parry attacks and as a catalyst to launch his counter right straight. Of course, this is only possible because of Mayweathers uncanny cat-like reflexes. Its really a beauty to watch in action and in slow motion.

4. HIGH GUARD, DROP JAB

Mayweather rarely puts both gloves up in a high guard but when he does, he likes to use a drop jab to surprise his opponent just in case they get confident enough to try and break the defense.

It almost always lands very accurately which scores heaps of points with the judges.

When an opponent sees both of Mayweathers gloves up in a high guard, they gain a sense of urgency to launch an attack which is stopped dead in its tracks with a perfectly timed left jab.

5. FOREARM CRUSH

This technique is virtually the same as the high elbow block, except he uses his forearm to push off an opponent. Again, this is still a legal boxing move as the forearm is not used as an attack but rather as a guard.

In the past, it has frustrated opponents, prohibiting them from getting close. Mayweather loves to do this and is frustrating to watch, if rooting for the opposition. After the forearm crush, Mayweather likes to throw combinations when an opponent is caught off balance.

6. LEANING RIGHT/PULL COUNTER

In this instance, Mayweather likes to wait until an opponent makes the mistake of throwing a punch. He then pulls his head back, which is again possible due to his amazing reflexes, and launches his patented right straight.

Most boxing fanatics call this pot-shotting because Mayweather only lands one punch at a time, but its a well-calculated and well-timed punch. The pull counter is one of the oldest tricks in the book and Mayweather executes it to perfection.

7. OPEN GUARD

Mayweather has a 72-inch reach which provides an advantage for him in almost every situation. When an opponent likes to stay busy and throws a lot of punches, much like Pacquiao does and what Cotto will try to do, Mayweather flails his long arms around to disrupt any flow of offense an opponent is able to mount.

Its almost like holding in a way, in a sense that Mayweathers aim is to try and tangle his arms with his opponents, which then nullifies any incoming flurries.

8. PUSH TACTICS

Another one of Mayweathers multiple defense mechanisms is actually not a legal boxing move, but is not normally penalized.

Whenever an opponent is able to successfully penetrate Mayweathers defensive space and gets inside the pocket, Mayweather likes to dangle his arms and push opponents away. Its not pretty to watch but its effective in resetting the fight back at the center of the ring.

Opponents are frustrated when fighting Mayweather because they can never get close enough to do any real damage. Mayweather -- through various techniques -- always manages to push them away.

9. HEAD & HOOKS

Sometimes, Mayweather does let opponents in close -- usually when he feels that an opponents power is not a threat and his limited skills can do no harm.

When this happens, Mayweather likes to dig his head deep into an opponents chest and throw hooks to the body and occasionally to the head. This does some serious damage and scores loads of points with the judges because from this position, punches land accurately and are very powerful.

10. SLAP HOOK ON THE INSIDE

This last one is this writer's favorite. Mayweather times an opponent as he tries to rush in, at which point he then throws a check-hook.

Its a lightning-fast left hook that is unexpected, and comes out of nowhere.*

They say the strongest and most damaging punch in boxing is the left hook (if youre a right handed fighter) because its so compact and full of power. It is also the punch that travels the shortest distance compared to other punches, so its easy to throw with speed, and land with conviction.

They also say the punch that you dont see is the one that knocks you out: Mayweather actually knocked Ricky Hatton out with this very punch.
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He is actually very predictable. Right overhand punch is like a telegraphed punch.
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Yet he is one of the most accurate punchers.

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JohnAnthony said: ↑

he's quite slow.i'd see his punches coming a mile off.
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Another ******ed statement. If he is so slow then why is he so accurate ?

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There is No Blueprint. :deal

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Another ******ed statement. If he is so slow then why is he so accurate ?
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His skill level is extremely overrated... He gets treated like god in terms of his boxing skill , and hes not even the smartest man in boxing right now.

His style is not that hard to figure out. Defensively he uses the shoulder roll almost exclusively. His counters basically boil down to a straight right hand over the jab or a check hook... sometimes an uppercut. He pulls his head straight back from punches which is why hes easy to hit with the jab.

Offensively, he throws basically 1 of 3 punches, a jab , a lead hook , or a lead right hand. He throws them in singles, rarely ever in combinations. He telegraphs his lead right hand before he throws it. He throws his left hook wide. If you can break down a shoulder roll D you can break Floyd down. All you have to watch out of for is his left hook, his right hand, because thats all hes' got. Watch the De La Hoya fight, Floyd could barely penetrate through a substandard defense because he doesnt know how to put punches together, and he doesnt attack the body either.

What makes Floyd (or made him) so hard to beat was his style, super tight defense, and his crazy athletic ability and speed. Even if you got a guy figured out it's not easy when he's as fast or athletic as Floyd is, when he can get punches off and get out of the way before you have a chance to return fire. But even Castillo proved that without speed, that with some solid fundamentals and a little bit of cleverness, you can make Floyd look totally beatable. It didnt take god to do it either , just Jose Luis Castillo. And even a '1 fight away from retirement' Oscar made him look completely ordinary.

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